[sonarblindbeta] Re: Sonar blind control surface progress

  • From: <ptorpey00@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <sonarblindbeta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:32:23 -0400

No. I'm running windows 7 and don't know if it would be any advantage in most
applications.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sonarblindbeta-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rishi D Mack
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:19 PM
To: sonarblindbeta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sonarblindbeta] Re: Sonar blind control surface progress

Yup you can. hey pete, you ever use it?

-----Original Message-----
From: ptorpey00@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 12:40 PM
To: sonarblindbeta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sonarblindbeta] Re: Sonar blind control surface progress

You can read more about this in the JAWS Help in the topic entitled under
"Using Touch Navigation".

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sonarblindbeta-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:12 AM
To: sonarblindbeta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sonarblindbeta] Re: Sonar blind control surface progress

Never heard of the touch cursor. Just got draws 16. We're good I read more
about this?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Rishi D Mack <cgrm20@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi guys, I've been using the touch curser as well in jaws 15 and later. I
find it to read more detailed on most objects since it's using object
navigation. I actually like it. if buttons are not labled properly, and it
can't tell if it's a button or not, it says it's a button using the touch
curser. and it sais has focus so you can actually press enter and it's
like a double tap. using the left or right arrows, it simulates swipe
jestures. page up and page down filters the different types stuff. it's
kind of like the router on mac. I actually like it.

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Belle
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:49 PM
To: sonarblindbeta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sonarblindbeta] Re: Sonar blind control surface progress

The closest we can get is with things like the opticon and or motorized
faders.

Fascinating.

I've heard of tactile touch surfaces being developed but haven't seen
anything in the main stream for a while.



On 5/19/2015 10:40 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Yes. Well understood. I guess I've always thought of that concept in
audible terms, never as anything but a straight slope, like one side
of a triangle, not a curved line, which implies a bit of calculus if
you think about it--there's a delta rate of change over time. Quite
interesting really; it's not linear, which I'll bet a lot of us
non-visual-reference types probably assume (or assumed) that it is.
Another thing to throw in the mix is how our ears work--logarithmic,
not linear, so of course a volume change over time would not be a
straight line. Unless, of course, the graph is logarithmic itself on
that axis. Fsascinating stuff to ponder. Now wouldn't a surface where
we could actually feel these things as sighted people see them be way
cool? This is why I say blind people have better imaginations. We have
to imagine things we cannot sense, then translate that imagined sense
into what we *can* sense. I'm more than convinced that this ability
takes brain development that those without the sense don't have
because they don't need it. What a marvelous thing our brain is! It
can rewrite its own device drivers on the fly when limbs and things
don't work the way they once did, and just so much more. I could go
on. A lot. But I won't. :-) <grin>

On Tue, 19 May 2015 00:42:19 -0500, you wrote:

When you move a fader, it makes a graphical representation, acurve of
moving from one point to another in time, and that is your shape,

Like going from 0 db down to -3 db over a 2 second fade curve for
instance.






On 5/18/2015 9:08 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Pardon my ignorance, but what's a bus automation shape?

On Mon, 18 May 2015 08:55:13 -0500, you wrote:

Forgot to ask one thing. Will you be able to edit MIDI events using
the event list? Also, will it be possible to edit bus automation
shapes? Previously, the only automation events we even could find
would be in the event list for individual tracks. If you found such an
event you could move it in time but could not edit it per se. With
respect to bus automation, you couldn't even find it. You could simply
remove via the undo command. The ability to have greater control over
event automation and bus automation shapes would really be cool.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2015, at 8:17 AM, John Martyn DoItBlind
<John@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all,
As you know I’ve been putting in long hours figuring out this C++
stuff. On the final two files which are the critical part of this, I’ve
had to start over 3 times to get it right. Converting things from c
code to c++ is not easy and to maintain the code integrity is
extremely difficult to do. I’m about 70% complete on the last two
files. The code is very complex and was structured in a way that made
certain things impossible and I’ve had to create my own code to deal
with the issues. This week should be good and I hope to finish before
Friday. If you’d like to know, you can control the synths through
this thing. You know what this means? You won’t have to fiddle with
knobs, sliders, buttons, etc in the plugin window anymore. You’ll do
it through a list. Technically this should work as I’ve seen the code
and see what it can do so this is just the solution we were looking
for. Mixed with the UIA these languages put together in natively
working environments are going to put to rest
a
lot of accessibility concerns. What this control surface can do is far
beyond how it was used in the past so this should be interesting to
see. Mixed with HSC, UIA, control surface in native C++, and using the
com API this thing is going to be a beast of a program. More to come….
John












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