Good point Orin. No one did. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of olaney@xxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:48 PM To: leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: bernd.schuster12@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: ground planes at top / bottom layer "...had to be ground in order to pass EMI?" Did anyone actually make that assertion? Orin On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:10:44 -0800 "Lee Ritchey" <leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > To all of those who recommend ground layers on the outside of PCBs to > control EMI, take a look at a PC mother board or the motherboard in > the > Xbox. They are 4 layer PCBs that have signals on both outside layers > and > the products in which they are shipped pass EMI standards. > > My guess is it is an RE. > > Lee Ritchey > > > > [Original Message] > > From: bernd schuster <bernd.schuster12@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 12/30/2008 12:27:11 PM > > Subject: [SI-LIST] ground planes at top / bottom layer > > > > Hi, > > I`ve one small question about the usage of ground planes at the > top and > > bottom layer. I thought it would be great to use them, but the > atmel > > evaluation boards (for example) do not use an ground plane on the > top > layer > > or bottom layer. They use for example an 8 layer stack design > (where > layer 5 > > is a vcc plane and layer 2 is a ground plane). > > > > Are there any disadvantages of using ground planes at the top / > bottom > > layer? In my first 4-layer board I use ground planes at the top, > bottom > and > > at the second layer. I connect them with a lot of vias. > > > > > > best regards > > Bernd > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject > field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.net > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject > field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu