Stuart Brorson wrote: >I don't think Gerber is used as an input format for SI tools, is it? > > > Actually, believe it or not, Gerber is a format that can be used with some 3D fullwave solvers. CST Microwave can use it. And I seem to remember a path from Gerber to the HFSS format. But ... it can get ugly. The other format that is prevalent in the RF/ Microwave tool universe is DXF. Artwork Conversions (www.artwork.com) has some good tools that can be used to translate from Gerber to DXF and back again, along with some links to other RF tool formats. Regarding what will happen to the files in a particular tool once they have been imported. Well that is a topic for a month's worth of discussions. Generally I find that after translation into dxf, a good editor like Autocad or Solidworks is a must have to perform some cleanup of the design. As for non-proprietary formats for PCB, flex, MCM, and package design information exchanges, wouldn't that be nice? Ff we had a robust universal design information exchange format, we would be able to pick and choose the best software for any particular job that we are doing. Unfortunately, this would run against the financial interests of most EDA vendors, which is exactly why we'll never see such a think in our lifetime. As for solving the entire electrical, electromagnetic and numerical environment of a common PCB, with the thought of correlating to far field emissions from thousands of potential radiating elements, that sounds like a good DARPA project on a massively parallel processor. No one else has that kind of money to fund research that will never find a commercial market. regards, scott -- Scott McMorrow Grand Poobah Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 (401) 284-1827 Business (401) 284-1840 Fax (503) 750-6481 Cellular http://www.teraspeed.com Teraspeed is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu