[SI-LIST] Re: EMI simulation tools at PCB level

  • From: "Thomas Beneken" <beneken@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:00:43 +0100

I've found artwork in the CST gerber input converter ...

.. and yes, gerber conversion sometimes needs rework by hand if it looks
like painting with a spot of light ...

Thomas

>    Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:56:17 -0500
>    From: Scott McMorrow <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: EMI simulation tools at PCB level
>
>
> Stuart Brorson wrote:
>
> >I don't think Gerber is used as an input format for SI tools, is it?
> >
> >
> >
> Actually, believe it or not, Gerber is a format that can be used with
> some 3D fullwave solvers.  CST Microwave can use it.  And I seem to
> remember a path from Gerber to the HFSS format.  But ... it can get
> ugly.  The other format that is prevalent in the RF/ Microwave tool
> universe is DXF. Artwork Conversions (www.artwork.com) has some good
> tools that can be used to translate from Gerber to DXF and
> back again,
> along with some links to other RF tool formats.  Regarding what will
> happen to the files in a particular tool once they have been
> imported.
> Well that is a topic for a month's worth of discussions.  Generally I
> find that after translation into dxf, a good editor like Autocad or
> Solidworks is a must have to perform some cleanup of the design.
>
> As for non-proprietary formats for PCB, flex, MCM,  and
> package design
> information exchanges, wouldn't that be nice?  Ff we had a robust
> universal design information exchange format, we would be
> able to pick
> and choose the best software for any particular job that we
> are doing.
> Unfortunately, this would run against the financial interests of most
> EDA vendors, which is exactly why we'll never see such a think in our
> lifetime.
>
> As for solving the entire electrical, electromagnetic and numerical
> environment of a common PCB, with the thought of correlating to far
> field emissions from thousands of potential radiating elements, that
> sounds like a good DARPA project on a massively parallel
> processor.  No
> one else has that kind of money to fund research that will
> never find a
> commercial market.
>
> regards,
>
> scott
>
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