[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was (no subject) - AKC judging fees
- From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 20:48:39 -0700 (PDT)
Yes, but even physicians' and lawyers' fees in most states are
not what AKC is proposing for judges, and judges cannot advertise
or even let their availability be known. This year, at my
suggestion, my club has hired judges who have agreed to come for $4
per dog. We have a great panel, albeit none of the over used, and
some who do have two or more groups. it can be done, and we would
be wise to facilitate the resources that we have available.
Carolyn
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Suzanne <tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Suzanne <tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was (no subject) - AKC judging fees
To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
Cc: Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx,
LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 3:34 PM
And yet...... when t he judging pool drops due to these fees and t he
difficulty in the AVERAGE PERSON get ting additional breeds t he all rounders
who currently charge 2K can charge 3 or 4 when clubs have fewer choices.......
and with multiple shows on any given weekend it will happen - supply and
demand......... dog shows and AKC are dying at it is not even t he 'enemy'
doing it. We need to look a lot closer.......
Suzanne
www.tsalishepherds.com
Home of BIS/MBISS Ch Yancy HT PT RE CD TC CGC BH, USISB CAC Int Ch Helios IPO3
AD HIC CGC CHIC, Ch Flair, AKC/Int Ch Jezzy, Gilli RN CHIC [mjr ptd], Anna TC,
and the Wreckin' Crew!!
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From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
To: tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx, LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
Cc: Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 3:40:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: was (no subject) - AKC judging fees
That's all valid Suzanne, and maybe Lee's and Cathy M.'s experience is the
same, but it's not unusual for all breed judges and performance judges to see
checks close to $2K for a 2 day cluster. I'm absolutely all for everyone
making money but by the same token I'm not going to fret if they are paying a
fee to renew their license.
Now, if a specialists has to pay a $50 fee and the clubs hiring them can't
afford to cover it then maybe those clubs have to revisit if it's worth having
a stand alone show...if they are cutting it that close, I'm thinking "no" and
perhaps they would be better off supporting an ab show.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
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In a message dated 5/13/2010 12:17:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
And to ADD to Lee's............ other organizations get SOMETHING for that
fee. We get an online judges newsletter written by breed club columnists on
how to judge their breed and grief from AKC. We are expected to search for and
pay for all our own education. [And G*D forbid its more than 2 years old -
after all we can only retain info a short period of time you know.....] AKC
offers only the Judge's Institute at a substancial cost. All other education
comes from the individual breed clubs. Other event judges, Herding for
example, are allowed to take money to train and trial other people's dogs but I
can't even hold a friend's dog at ringside for him/her in case the judge in the
ring is influenced when they see me with a dog...... Obedience and Rally
judges are rarely accused of 'misconduct' in the ring. Have you read the
conformation judge's guidelines lately?? Breed judges are just assumed to be
crooked and AKC does everything but call
us criminals. No ad
vertising, don't tell people you are a judge, don't put it on a business card
or in an ad, and absolutely no soliciting.
I pay fees for stuff all the time but if you are going to charge me a fee, tell
me what I get for it!!!!!!! Anda don't day for the "priveledge" of
judging........... try to do better than that.........
Suzanne
www.tsalishepherds.com
Home of BIS/MBISS Ch Yancy HT PT RE CD TC CGC BH, USISB CAC Int Ch Helios IPO3
AD HIC CGC CHIC, Ch Flair, AKC/Int Ch Jezzy, Gilli RN CHIC [mjr ptd], Anna TC,
and the Wreckin' Crew!!
----- Original Message -----
From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx, Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx
Cc: Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:02:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was (no subject) - AKC judging fees
That is all fine and well but what other individual that has to pay a license
fee that is not allowed to solicit business or advertise their services?
Judges cannot do this!!!!!!!!!!!
Lee Brown
In a message dated 5/13/2010 10:56:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes:
Can anybody name a license they have that doesn't have a fee to
maintain/renew???
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