Absolutely, Mike. I have used this to show a newby what is meant by "....the fewest number of steps ......" Simply count the number of times the dog's left front foot contacts the ground between two ring posts. Carolyn --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Lindenhill <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Lindenhill <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: gaiting To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx, AGray40366@xxxxxxx, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx Cc: utter227@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 7:19 AM If you want to be truly accurate on the fewest steps across a measured distance you could always do the following. Measure your own stride, and walk off a section of the ring between two points of reference to gauge the distance and count the strokes each dog takes to move across it, hopefully on a loose lead. Using this strategy - speed does not matter - the fewest steps win - always. The only other variable that comes in to play at this point is the size of the dog(Length and Height). A larger dog always has the potential to outstroke a smaller dog if they have equal angulation. I haven't worked out the math yet, but am guessing that an inch in height could result in 2-4 inches longer in stride back to sleep M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx>; <AGray40366@xxxxxxx>; <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> Cc: <utter227@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: gaiting ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================