[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: What Are We Willing To Give UP for Dogs and the Parent Club
- From: "Chris S. Kimerer" <tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Frank Fasano <fk.fasano@xxxxxxxxx>, Frank and Kris Fasano <fk.fasano@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
Terra
Thank you so much for this well thought out, well constructed post that leaves
emotion out of it and sticks to the facts at hand.
There obviously has been much discussion, not just on lists, but also at dog
shows among members. Last week I wrote a post as well, regarding spenditure,
loss of benefits to the membership, loss of funds to the regional clubs, etc.
I do want to state that I know there are several board members that are very
aware of what is being said and are listening and in agreement with the
membership and share in this frustration. I would like to point that out, that
when posts are made, and the "Board" or "PC" is being talked about or
questioned, it is not always necessarily everyone on the board. There are
several that are trying very very hard to keep this fiscal situation and
membership consideration in balance. THANKS to those board members, you
know who you are!!!!!
The points Terra has made are the exact points that need to be looked at. She
is so correct in her statement that if the membership is being asked to make
concessions, the ones making those requests need to make the same concessions
and need to take a long hard look at their expenditures as well.
It just does not look good and is plain wrong to keep taking and taking and
taking and not make any changes at the top level. I am so ok with a
Bi-Monthly Review or perhaps a quarterly issue, IF some concessions are made at
the top. Reduce # of Board members. It's been discussed for several years
now, I do believe it's time to do this. I see the value in face to face board
meetings, and don't think it's fair to expect board members to pay their own
way. They do not get paid, give up an entire weekend, and really have to
problem with paying for their plane tickets or gas to get there, and the hotel
costs. If we reduce the # on the board, there would be considerable savings on
that end. Also, to make the board more efficient, instead of just 3 regular
Board Meetings and then the Sunday at the National (which never allows enough
time to do anything constructive), have monthly teleconferance/internet board
meetings. Then some of these
important items would be addressed in a more timely manner. For all this to
fiscally work though, an itemized financial report has to be available to each
board member. It needs to be a current report, with Quick Books, that is 100%
feasable.
It seems the National is the biggest money loosing event over the past 3
years. I know that the membership is not in total aggreement on locations
either and that it is impossible to make everyone happy on this issue. The
biggest drivng force now though is to pick the locations that have the best
attendance AND are most affordable. I know I will get blasted on this, but the
Central locations seem to loose the least amount of money and have the larger #
of entries. It's not trying to disenfranchise anyone, it is simple math at
this point. Flying dogs is going to become harder and harder, so it's back to
driving to the Nationals with the dogs, or people not entering dogs and flying
just to to attend. What does not sit well is hearing that everything is
getting padded with the fees to make up 3 years of bad management and losses.
Having to pay $115/stall when there is not cost to the club, doubling the RV
rental and making money on each room
at the host just looks plain greedy. As said over and over again, don't
punish everyone for bad judgement over the past 3 years. Chalk it up to bad
managment and move forward, but don't keep gouging the people still willing to
enter and attend. Make the stall fees $50 and look like heros!!
As far as the Futurity/Maturity's, I was against eliminating the 2-4th place
wooden plaques. Now, in light of everything, if those get changed to nice
Rosettes, ok, so be it. BUT, don't rob the Regional clubs of the Purina Money
support. At least designate a portion of that money and let the Regional clubs
keep the profit, otherwise what incentive is there to keep the program alive?
I think it is still a valuable program, but if the Regional Club's loose money
hosting it, you will loose the vehicle that drives the program and then what??
Quit making the Regional Clubs pay for lossees the National incurs! As Terra
stated so correctly, the Parent Club is not the Government, you are not allowed
to rob Peter just to pay Paul!
In closing, again, I know there are board members that are tyring to do the
right thing and are well aware of what is going on and are listening to the
membership. This is directed at those that think they are "above the law" and
make decisions without regard to the membership or the survival of the Regional
Clubs.
Thanks for reading
Chris
Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer
www.tanbarkgsd.com
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From: Terra Fairburn <terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 7:35 AM
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] What Are We Willing To Give UP for Dogs and the Parent
>Club
>
>Sally Hayden brought up a good question; what are we willing to give up for
>dog showing and or the Parent Club?
>Let me remind everyone that the majority of the parent club membership are
>baby boomers...retired and or on the countdown to retiring. Therefore we here
>at Keggi Fair are wondering how we are going to survive in our golden years.
>Are we going to have our state retirement or will we loose that too? Will we
>have adequate health care and at what cost? So in the last month we made
>major decisions for our household; 1. cell phone plans are going to
>change-no more internet and web for us, back to the LG phones and pay by month
>to lower costs, 2. we are getting rid of the house phone, 3. dropped the
>contracts with the bug man (Terminex), lawn guy (Tru Green), and water
>delivery (Spring Green), our 2003 van has 190,00 miles on it. We decided to
>buy another van (not New) with only 80,000 miles as we really don't need a van
>for everyday driving when we are retired, forget the addition of the 4 season
>room on the house, no more traveling and motels
to dogs shows more than 300 mi
>les away, No more use of credit cards unless for an emergency. We still feel
>very fortunate to have our jobs and be able to have and breed dogs but....are
>we willing to pay more for a subscription to the Review? Are we willing to
>enter and participate in the Futurity/Maturity system, are we willing to pay
>higher dues to the GSDCA? Probably not and that too will be cut. Please
>don't ask us to spend more as we make very informed decisions on how to cut
>our monthly budgets in our households because a group (GSDCA) wants to host
>huge dog parties to prove to the World how great we are. Please show me where
>you (GSDCA) are making cuts and not just spending more to (MAYBE) make a
>profit. EVERYBODY is cutting their budgets!
>
>
>Here is what I would cut at the GSDCA.......
>1. No more paid travel to the Board Meetings unless you are the President,
>Vice President, Treasurer and Secretary. Everyone else can call in. It is
>done all the time at the state and Federal Level and it works. Exceptions
>would be made depending on the needs.
>2. Reduce the Board (come on how out of date and touch are you all for
>thinking bigger is better)!
>3. NO WORLD SHOWS or other BIG SHOWS except for the National...not until our
>HOUSE IS IN ORDER (GSDCA) both financially and ethically.
>4. Quarterly Review and only one part time paid staff and a less expensive
>format. Pass on the savings to the members of the GSDCA so they can afford to
>advertise-brag.
>5. Nationals outside and in the fall and more centrally located for at least
>the next five years.
>6. Let the Regional Clubs run their own Futurities and KEEP ALL THE
>MONEY>>>they work hard on those weekends and should be REWARDED FINANCIALLY.
>
>STOP the madness of passing on "nickel and dime mentality" . . . I do not want
>to pay extra for a motel room at the HOST hotel because the Board needs
>money. And this is funny as this is the first year ever that WE got a
>reservation at the HOST!!! I do not want to pay extra for RV parking because
>the BOARD gets the cut. I do not want to pay HUGE prices to set up my booth
>at a NATIONAL because the BOARD NEEDS MONEY!!! I NEED MONEY TOO! If I find
>out who those were that thought that was a good idea to make money I will make
>it my personal pledge to get the word out when election time comes.
>
>I want to see a BOARD that is willing to understand the "BIG PICTURE" and not
>forget about a it's membership and what they need. WE WANT IMMEDIATE
>TRANSPARENCY! NO WE ARE NOT TEA PARTIERS! Come ON! We are Baby Boomers that
>are trying to hold onto our MIDDLE CLASS STANDING! DO YOU HEAR US?
>
>Terra Fairburn & Nanc Kinley
>Keggi Fair German Shepherds
>
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