Dawn Writes< What about the breeders that sell these puppies to newcomers, that do not know any better, and when the owner of the pup asks the breeder for advice, the breeder tells them that they are "SHOW QUALITY" and they will win in the Show Ring? It is a vicious circle! Dawn I would hope that the majority of breeders sell puppies like this because they don't know or reconize these faults/problems. Sometimes I think that exhibitors have seen so many of these faults and then watched them being awarded that it may have become "acceptable and status quo". It is amazing to see the reaction of other breed people when they see some of our Specialty winners, (certainly not all of them)walking(dragging their toes, etc) around the grounds of the large all breed show grounds after receiving a big win at the supported GSD Specialty held in conjunction with the all breed show. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the GSDC of American could put together a great Education Seminar that would be presented throughout the country? All breed judges would benefit too. Maybe Dave's Seminar and othersused in the past could be utilized. My dream for more education. Nancy POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================