Dawn - Yes, a certain amount of blame can be placed on the judges...but not all. Breeders who sell dogs to others...dogs with these problems...and exhibitors who show them and who should know better, are the very first place to lay the blame. It is said that judges can only judge what's in front of them...that's true to an extent. But nobody wants to show to judges who withhold...it's hard enough to get a handler to show to judges who don't care who is handling dogs. The breed has become one that is very hard to win with without a professional handler (not that it's impossible, but it is difficult, even very difficult)...and where are you going to place the blame for that? I've had dogs shown to me whose feet were so flat and splayed that it was a miracle they could walk, never mind gait...and when I mentioned it to the handlers, they looked at me like I was nuts....like "who cares?" The breeder and/or owner of the dogs should care...and the handlers should refuse to show dogs with all these faults...maybe then the judges would learn not to put them up...they wouldn't see them! I've watched mentors show films of dogs to would-be judges, and show dogs who were dragging their feet, and there they stood, telling the newbies what great movement was being demonstrated! NOT! And what about the people who breed to these dogs with flat, splayed feet, dragging toes, locked hocks, and dead tails? Or dogs who are nuts, and can only compete when they're drugged? Whose fault is that? Peggy D.G.Bonome wrote: >If Judges, (NOT ALL) are picking Dogs/Bitches w/dead >tails, dragging feet/toes? AND locked hocks, then the >Judges are to blame. Is this love of the breed, when >an animal, down the road, is crippled? AND this is >being passed down to a future generation? I THINK NOT! > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================