Wellhaving worked int he veterinary field I can give you one reason. When we saw urinary incontinance in a reletively young bitch, the first question we asked was "When was she spayed?" 9 times out of 10 the asnwer we got was 'I dont know, we got her at 2 mos or 3 mos or even 4 mos from a shelter and she was already spayed. That is 9 times out of 10. when I say young bitches I mean 3 and 4 year olds. Sure we ran UAs and most of the time they would come back negative. Why would anyone want to have an owner that has to give meds to help with urinary incontinance when it could easily have been avoided? Cindy Gialluca Cyneca German Shepherds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Donnelly" <gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx> To: <beth0024@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Erynbrook@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:48 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Picking Puppies > The ramifications ARE and have always been realized by people that do > rescue. > > I put it to you and others that "pooh pooh" early spay and neuter to get > your butts out their and volunteer IN a shelter AT LEAST 4 hours a day. > > If your pet pups are NOT going to be bred, why NOT spay/neuter them??? > Answer that. Please. > > Colleen Donnelly > > > > Beth Reynolds <beth0024@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thank you Susan, > > There are way to many folks willing to spay and neuter puppies and kittens > way before they should be. The ramifications of early spay and neuter are > only being realized. Which for some puppies and kittens well its > unfortunate. > > Beth > Colorado > > -----Original Message----- > From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Erynbrook@xxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:11 PM > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Picking Puppies > > > In a message dated 10/16/2005 8:56:51 PM Mountain Standard Time, > gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx writes: >> You make sure they are Neutered/Spayed when they leave.... > > Excuse me - I must have missed something. Someone spays or neuters > companion > pups before they are sold? Like at 8 weeks????????? > > Susan Casey > Erynbrook German Shepherds and > Front Range German Shepherd Rescue > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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