[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our German Shepherds

  • From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: fhenry1@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 20:07:26 -0700 (PDT)

I agree the book "Pukka's Promise is a excellent book. 
 
The problem with genetics is if the disease is there it will
surface when least expected through the hidden genes.
All GSD's are related to the dogs in the past that died
from the diseases we have today. 
 
Passed away... acute pericarditis accompanied by a rupture of a blood vessel 
Schwarpelz von Mardex  sire: Sieger Utz von Haus Schutting  dam: Cita von 
Weisdorf Dec 4, 1932-May 30, 1939
 
Dogs of the past with Digestive Problems as reported in various
Genetics books 
 
V Alex vom Westfalenheim
 
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id32&p=5-generation-pedigree
 SGR VA, GV CH. (US) Erich vom Grafenwerth
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id—6&p=5-generation-pedigree
VA1 SGR, CH. (US) Klodo vom Boxberg
 
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id’0&p=5-generation-pedigree
 
VA1 Axel von der Deininghauserheide
 
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?idQ8&p=6-generation-pedigree
 
V, ROM (US) Hein vom Richterbach
 
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id$7
 
V1 Canto von der Wienerau
 
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id1
 
Theresa

--- On Tue, 6/11/13, Fran Henry <fhenry1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



I have to second Tina's recommendation of "Pukka's Promise." The book is 
sub-titled "The Search for Longer-lived Dogs," and the research he's done is 
admirable. Because of his book, I changed Abby's feeding entirely -- and 
approximately three-four months later, she is no longer shedding buckets year 
round, her coat and weight are great, and her pee doesn't burn my lawn. Not 
biggies, I'll admit, but I see them as indicators of improved nutrition.

I lost Kane at 7 of esophageal cancer; I lost Cinder at 8 and Luke at 10.5 of 
Hemangiosarcoma, something I'd never heard of (and I read A LOT) that is very 
prevalent in GSDs. Luke and Cinder were only distantly related. In my mind, 
cancer is our biggest enemy.

Fran Henry

On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Yahoo <ducksavsfan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'm probably going to have an unpopular opinion here, but as I see it, we're 
> breeding ourselves into a corner that we won't be able to get out of. I don't 
> personal think its coincidental that we have had so many dogs dying young 
> lately when you relate to how much inbreeding is going on.>> Msg: #1 in digest
>> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:38:55 -0700
>> Subject: Re: Our German Shepherds
>> From: Helen Franklin <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> I could not disagree more Evan. Health issues are ramped in our breed and
>> it has declined in popularity because of it.  To name a few of the current
>> problems,
>> spinal myelopathy, bloat, torsion, cancer, pancreatic insufficiency,
>> epilepsy, spleen, esophagus/heart are but a few causing early deaths in our
>> breed.  You point
>> to human diseases Polio, Muscular Dystrophy, Downs a genetic disease, which
>> has no relation to today's German Shepherds, except to say there's hope
>> for the future?  Downs syndrome is not a disease but a genetic problem as
>> may be crib death.   Every time a family loses a dog early from a genetic
>> disease,
>> they not only do not want that breed again, they tell friends about their
>> bad luck with that breed and thus causes very bad publicity.  I HAVE HEARD
>> THAT
>> A GERMAN SHEPHERD CLUB MAY GO OUT OF EXISTANCE BECAUSE OF THIS VERY
>> REASON.  A Club that was formed in the 1930's has lost so
>> many members due to bad experiences with early deaths and bad health,  that
>> now the membership is almost gone.  I don't know if I have permission to
>> name
>> that club or not so I won't until I do have permission, but the club
>> president contacted me.  IT IS SERIOUS!
>> I'm glad that on your block and in Orange County the problem doesn't exist
>> Evan, but does elsewhere in the world.  It's not just some bloodlines, it
>> is all bloodlines.
>> It is not fun and roses, it is serious.  It is not getting better, it is
>> worse.  I too have been around for a long time, since 1965.  I see, I read,
>> I listen, I talk to breeders,
>> I care and I speak the truth.  We can solve problems of extreme rears or
>> temperament, but if they die at 3, or 6 or 8, .....what have we solved?
>> Helen Franklin
> 
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