"What do you guys feel is an acceptable life span for a GSD? 10 12, 14 years?" Terry, as a lifelong owner & breed enthusiast, not a breeder, I consider 13 to be a normal "healthy" lifespan. And I think that should be all of our goal, with beyond that being "gravy," and added treasure. Once we get 13 more commonly, I see no reason we who love this breed can't set our eyes on 13-15 as a goal to strive for. Much less than about 13 and I think something has gone wrong, and that can be *anything* in the mix from genes to diet, exercise, veterinary care, toxins introduced, and overall quality of life the dog was given . . . most often a *combination* of these things. On a personal level, 15 yrs 8 mos is my family's longest. And that is a credit to the (wonderful) show breeder as well as resulting from good diet, swimming & appropriate exercise, veterinary choices we made, slightly more petite size for a female, and love & care. 10 yrs and under and I think something (many things, more likely) has seriously gone wrong and we seek to fix things, do better in our choices the next time around. Overall size (oversizing) I think is likely to contribute too, as giant sized breeds more frequently do not live as long as merely large breeds and I see bulkier, heavier breeds like rotties having more cruciate injuries, bigger dogs having more likelihood of bloating, etc. When I hear the pet buying public and/or backyard breeder types talking about bigger, heavier, tougher, more macho GSDs that are well outside the standard for size, I worry about this. I tell them they are not looking for a GSD, but should buy a Rottie or Mastiff or Great Dane or something. I think about lifespan more often that I would like to (since it can be heartbreaking to lose a GSD at any point!) these days . . . as it is a frequent question I get asked by the public when my GSD Service Dog & I are out, since he is senior now (12 yrs) and still working in the public eye. Cindy On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm < scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > In my opinion as the GSD's I grew up around lived to be 14 years plus and > do want > to lose mine before that age. However, I have lost several GSD at 7-11 > years of age > to Hemangiosarcoma as it is now plaguing our breed in the worst way. > > Theresa > --- On Tue, 6/11/13, Terry Cochran <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > What do you guys feel is an acceptable life span for a GSD? 10 12, 14 > years? > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm < > scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Helen, > > > > I see exactly what you are saying below as people are becoming more aware > > with the health issues of the GSD. > > > > Below are just a few web-sites of the diseases that plague the GSD. > > > > Top 10 German Shepherd Health Problems > > > > http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/10/prweb10058085.htm > > > > Investigation of Inherited Diseases of the German Shepherd Dog Using the > SNP > > > > http://www.akcchf.org/research/funded-research/0934.html > > > > > > Common Diseases and Disorders > > http://www.petplace.com/dog-breeds/german-shepherd-dog-diseases.aspx > > > > The following diseases are reported to occur more frequently in the > German Shepherd Dog > > > > http://www.provet.co.uk/dogs/gsd.htm > > > > > > Theresa > > > > --- On Tue, 6/11/13, Helen Franklin <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > When I think back about some of my dogs and the special relationships we > > had, I cry. There is nothing I value more then these memories and there > is > > nothing more worth fighting for then this breed. The health issues are > > killing our dogs and driving away the public. I don't have the answers > but > > this is the most important and most serious matter facing us today. We > > must save these beautiful soulful brown eyes that look at us with love > and > > devotion. We must make all efforts to > > cure their bodies of diseases that cause them pain and early deaths. We > > are their caretakers. We owe it to them. We must unite in honesty, in > > cooperation, and in communication...and that is just the beginning. > > > > Helen Franklin > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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