[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Not Rocket Science...?
- From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 06:48:44 -0800 (PST)
If you read all their information on the site you will see the information on
color
and health guarantee.
http://www.gaardog.com/health.htm
I do not believe they are irresponsible as a few other sites is all I meant.
Theresa
On Tue, 2/28/12, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So if they have German lines the white disqualification does not count??
Many faults are recessive that have showed up through history. The key is to
not deliberately breed the fault......particularly a disqualifying fault.
Axel did have poor pigment..... and it was one of his breed warnings I believe.
The 'key' to breeding is..... most who utilized Lance did not continue to breed
the
faults in just because they preferred them.....ie....length, pigment, feet, etc.
I've had a few conversations of the person that started the "Panda" shepherds.
She e-mailed me the photos of both parents. Pigment was an issue as I
recall...and
a lot of white on one of them....I just don't recall if it was the sire or the
dam. We
could all develop that if we chose to........but NOT and follow the Breed
Standard.
YEP........all those sites I posted have color faults.........including the
whites! <G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm To: Carolyn Martello ;
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Germanshepherds4Show] Not Rocket Science...?
I agree with not breeding the off color of the websites you posted below
except wonder why you included
http://www.gaardog.com/sires.htm who has German GSD's.
The color white is not really a off color but a recessive that in history has
arrived in litters with
white GSD's in their background.
As was written by the late Malcolm Willis... Axel von der Deininghauser Heide
"Both Axel's parents had poor pigment and weak color which came down through
the line as well as producing blues. Axel was powerful built with depth of
chest but was long backed.
Troll... had large thin ears like his sire, weak pasterns and poor feet which
came down from him... dilution color and cryptochidism. "
Now if Troll and Alex never came to the USA Lance would not exist.
I think the real issue is the conformation difference in the white GSD and
the American show
bred GSD's. Most of the white show GSD's look more like GSD's of years ago
with more of
the square look. It will still boil down if they were allowed to show to the
judge and placings.
I see many GSD's showing at AKC shows that lack type and correct conformation
but they are
the right color.
The real issue is AKC will registry anything don't require DNA to prove if
there was not a outcross involved. Since the person at UCDavis that did the
testing on the Panda's left shortly after there was never a report on it.
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