[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Not Rocket Science...?
- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:20:57 -0800
So if they have German lines the white disqualification does not count??
Many faults are recessive that have showed up through history. The key is to
not deliberately breed the fault......particularly a disqualifying fault.
Axel did have poor pigment..... and it was one of his breed warnings I believe.
The 'key' to breeding is..... most who utilized Lance did not continue to breed
the
faults in just because they preferred them.....ie....length, pigment, feet, etc.
I've had a few conversations of the person that started the "Panda" shepherds.
She e-mailed me the photos of both parents. Pigment was an issue as I
recall...and
a lot of white on one of them....I just don't recall if it was the sire or the
dam. We
could all develop that if we chose to........but NOT and follow the Breed
Standard.
YEP........all those sites I posted have color faults.........including the
whites! <G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm To: Carolyn Martello ;
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [Germanshepherds4Show] Not Rocket Science...?
I agree with not breeding the off color of the websites you posted below
except wonder why you included
http://www.gaardog.com/sires.htm who has German GSD's.
The color white is not really a off color but a recessive that in history has
arrived in litters with
white GSD's in their background.
As was written by the late Malcolm Willis... Axel von der Deininghauser Heide
"Both Axel's parents had poor pigment and weak color which came down through
the line as well as producing blues. Axel was powerful built with depth of
chest but was long backed.
Troll... had large thin ears like his sire, weak pasterns and poor feet which
came down from him... dilution color and cryptochidism. "
Now if Troll and Alex never came to the USA Lance would not exist.
I think the real issue is the conformation difference in the white GSD and
the American show
bred GSD's. Most of the white show GSD's look more like GSD's of years ago
with more of
the square look. It will still boil down if they were allowed to show to the
judge and placings.
I see many GSD's showing at AKC shows that lack type and correct conformation
but they are
the right color.
The real issue is AKC will registry anything don't require DNA to prove if
there was not a outcross involved. Since the person at UCDavis that did the
testing on the Panda's left shortly after there was never a report on it.
Standard
"Color
The German Shepherd Dog varies in color, and most colors are permissible.
Strong rich colors are preferred. Pale, washed-out colors and blues or livers
are serious faults. A white dog must be disqualified."
The white is disqualified but yet the Pale, washed-out colors, blues and
livers are just faults. This does not make sense after all the websites you
posted were the sites that are only have the faults.
I do not want to see a separation in our breed and would like a different
solution.
Theresa
On Mon, 2/27/12, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
These are just a quick few web sites.......I hope those who care will take
the time to
look and think about it and write your Board.
This is not a "fairness issue". This is about chipping away at our Standard!!
www.gaardog.com
www.kerstoneshepherds.net
www.angelicshepherds.com
www.furrarikennels.com
www.pandashepherds.com
www.7csshepherds.com
www.k9pines.com
www.owlgrovegsd.com
Are we SURE we want to actually ignore a disqualifying fault..........just
because
the DNA is German Shepherd Dog??? ( here is your results!! ) Once you go
down this road........it will be hard to get back on track. Our membership
will fill
up with those who vote along these lines with the steps the Board has taken.
*
We should never ignore and use a disqualifying fault for the purpose of
increasing
a membership in spite of our Standard..... just for financial purposes and
numbers!!
*
Notice these are being passed off as show dogs and breeding stock.
I'm no Rocket Scientist....but I don't think there is ANY A.K.C. Breed that
allows all and any color and marking!?? Are we sure we want to present this
as the face of the German Shepherd Dog and acceptable by the German
Shepherd Dog Club Of America, Inc. as we ignore our own mission statement?
*
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
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