In a message dated 10/23/2007 1:33:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, LBaird1608@xxxxxxx writes: Ok so by using the words not for profit, you cheat the actual meaning of AMATEUR???? What about stud fee's given in exchange or how is no money exchanged to be proved by someone just saying so???? Or do you have to provide bank records? LOL I dont believe a bit of it SORRY, I still feel it is WRONG & hurting those that ARE really AMATEURS. Juniors dont show for profit either BUT if they do accept gifts & are found out, of any kind then they arent able to be Jr's. Maybe it would have "LOOKED" better or more appropriate "IF" Melissa or her son would have shown the dog themselves @ BOTH the Fut/Mat and the National instead of an EXPERIENCED HANDLER it would LOOK as if something WRONG was done. Ya know, Rickey and I are good friends, and i would never offend him, but I would not give him say...Achilles to handle at the National . He loves to go in the ring and play with the dogs. He handled HIS dogs in shows and those of his good friend Melissa. I believe the Amateur Futurity Victrix handler was a junior who also handled in specials and other classes. Hell, I've shown mine off and on in shows for years and even managed to get some points on them. But unless we all need serious comic relief, I'll continue to pay the pros to handle my dogs. My dogs are tired of being embarrassed by me. Pity the poor dog that gets on the end of a leash in my hands LOL. Oh wait....poor Sally will be handled by me this weekend. oops Denise Groenewald President GSDC of North Georgia Editor of The Guardian, GSDC of Atlanta Monthly newsletter _www.greenwoodshepherds.com_ (http://www.greenwoodshepherds.com/) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================