In a message dated 10/23/2007 11:13:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, LBaird1608@xxxxxxx writes: let's see he HAS WON a group 1 (I believe it was on the brother of your male that he NOW co-owns with you & in Montgomery,AL Right Lee Brown, ****************************************************************************** **** In answer to your question. Yes the dog won a group under me not RICKY. I was judging the dogs not the handlers. In saying that just because he was the handler on the DOG that won the group does not make him a professional. I have given groups to other DOGS that were being handled by non professional many times. Also have awarded BIS to DOGS that were not professional handled but owner handled. Do that make the owner now a profession because they won a BIS on their DOG. I do think Ricky is owner of the DOG I put up so I am not sure what your point is and this all I have to say on this. I answered the question you ask and I am done. Not interested in starting or taking part in any argument. This list has been very nice for the last week and hopefully it will stay that way. Your post was very strong and unnecessary. Lee Brown ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================