Well, I kind of disagree here. As a judge I am looking for breeding stock. Problems that are not genetic should not be considered. A genetically missing tooth should be taken into consideration IF it is anything other than the first premolar. If a tooth is missing through an accident I would love to know that! ASCA allows for the judge to be notified BY VETERINARY LETTER if an animal is missing teeth (tooth) due to injuries. As someone who actively herds and had seen more than one dog loose multiple teeth from a well placed cow and horse hick, I know that working injuries happen. Teeth get broken off in schutzhund too. Personally I think a letter is a fine idea. Ears can be bitten off by other dogs... an obvious accident... or they could be cropped off if they don't stand up! Now I know we don't have hanging ears in the breed (ever wonder why its specified in our standard??) so noone would do that. (lol) However, if I got a letter before judging telling me that the missing half an ear was due to an injury I'd definitely appreciate it! Its not whether you choose to ignore the standard or not. Its about breed integrity and selecting the best breeding stock. Thats genetics not injury - common sense. Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of Ch Firedog, Ch Cookie, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy, and Ch Flash! Website updated 10/05 -------------- Original message -------------- Technically speaking, a "missing tooth" is a > MISSING TOOTH. If the GSDCA had wanted an exemption it would have included > one > when the standard was written. When judges start deciding what parts of the > standard to follow and what parts to ignore, they cheapen the standard and in > return the breed - ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================