I can picture what Jess is saying <G>. What she's calling "flashing legs" we call "runners" and some of the old timers even call them "quick steppers". And yes, you do see these at specialties instead of all breed rings because their owners are usually smart enough to pick the right venue for their dogs. Is it correct....no. I've heard the term "big mover" in both horses and dogs, and sometimes it's correct and other times it's not, it all depends on the rest of the package:) Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 7/15/2008 10:21:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, izakabuska@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Gosh - I've never heard side-gaiting as being referred to as "Big", nor have I ever heard the expression "flashing legs" - I guess I haven't been in the breed long enough (30+ years and multiple Champions and ROM bitches). Iza Kabuska http://www.Karizmashepherds.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica MacMillan" <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Movement - My Take - Maybe Controversial for Thoughts > As I pointed out before, a CORRECTLY made, correctly conditioned GSD > should be able to handle a smallish ring - maybe not a postage stamp ring, > but an average sized ring. Isn't this breed supposed to be strong and > athletic? Which means they should be able to function and move CORRECTLY > in all situations. > > I have to laugh that everyone always talks about how a big sidegait is > what wins at specialties... No, actually, based on many of the photos I > see in the Review or see at shows, a dog with lots of flashing legs does > well at specialties. Those are the dogs who NEED the big rings to get > their legs under them and sort of going the right direction. Yes, dogs > with big CORRECT gaits do win, but flashing legs does not equal big gait. > > And a dog with a faulty down and back can have a big sidegait or lots of > action - it's those flexible dogs that have the biggest gaits. Very rarely > will you find a dog with a totally correct down and back with a big, long > gait. Dogs are typically good on one end or the other and then have the > sidegait to go with it. To me it is this flexibility that allows for the > big gait... > > JMHO from many years of watching dogs in all-breeds.Jess M.Paisley Dals > (www.paisleydals.com)& The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & > Pepper, HIC)Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC > _________________________________________________________________ **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================