Not to be argumentative here, but having had a GSDCA AOE, there is nothing easy about it, at least it was not for me. No matter which venue one shows in, it still takes the dedication in time and money to commit to take a dog to that level. There might be more leniency on the # of Selects a judge can award in the GSDCA, but I don't consider it just a token title. As I have said before, I show in both venues and personally admire any dog that achieves those levels, no matter which ring it is in. Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E --- On Mon, 4/26/10, Paula Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Paula Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I learned To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 11:47 PM None of this is Rocket Science, nor is it as secretive as some GSDCA stuff!!! Just like the GSDCA Select rating; one judge's opinion at one show. No more, no less. Except, AKC allows only a limited number of entries to be awarded an AOE. The GSDCA allows any and all entries to be awarded Select, at the judge's discretion. There are less GSD's with the AKC AOE than there are GSD's with the GSDCA Selects, Select Excellent, or even AOE's. Ergo, the AKC AOE is a more rare and prestigious award, IMHO. I understand that our self-esteemed Chairperson of the GSDCA AOE Committee considers the AKC AOE to be a Second-Class or Second-Rate award. I don't believe she has ever had a dog awarded one. Actually, I don't believe that she even competes in our sport!! Them than can, do, them that can't, criticize and condemn?? You will see Grand Champions in the next few months. I am sure that there will be quite a few this summer. It is not hard to look it up on the AKC website!! http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id@96 Paula, 168 days and counting Home of Best in Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA (Hips, Elbows, Heart & Thyroid) DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: I learned Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:32:58 -0400 I have not been able to watch the Eukanuba AKC Invitational Show for years and I was confused about the AKC JAM/AOE award. So, I asked and I learned the following: "The AKC JAM/AOE" Award is received when your dog is NOT awarded Best of Breed and NOT awarded Best Opposite Sex at the Eukanuba AKC Invitational Show but still acknowledged by the all breed judge on that day, as having merit. A ribbon is presented to the dogs that did not go BOB or BOS but the judge felt should receive another award that says, "Award of Excellence." Now, I have lots of questions regarding the AKC "Grand Champion" title. Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4bd62643896e11d1e35st03duc ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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