[ SHOWGSD-L ] Health questions/ this List

  • From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gsdramey@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 22:50:08 -0800

This is not Pano.
I don't blame the bitch...and I can't say I blame the stud...but I do
wonder about things when something just POPS UP.  <G>
Normally we wait an extra month before we give the third vaccine to 
our pups.  But we gave them their vaccine 'on time'..a few days after 
12 weeks.  Something we normally don't do...but were taking them to a
Match.   The pasterns were DOWN in two days!  
This pup has pretty much corrected except one pastern is still softer
or still a tad more down.
It is odd to me....and I wonder about other Breeds.
Some breeds have terrible pasterns anyway...i.e., Bassetts, Doxies,
Bull Dogs...so I just wonder if other breeds actually do develop
'down' pasterns like some of our Shepherds do.  And why "some" and
not others....?
Someone mentioned their Vet is seeing it now even in horses.  Horses
also have angulated pasterns compared to say....a Terrier.
Our Vet years ago said it was too high powered dog food with lots of 
"nutritional" stuff added for growth...because of marketing they all
brag about all their "extra"  ingredients.  <G>
SO...we've always been careful about pups not getting too fat...and a
diet not too high in fat or protein...etc.    Now this pup.... 

Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com


On Behalf Of Norma Ramey
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Health questions/ this List

It wasn't until after Ed had gone to the Vet with his guy, that I remembered

another leg problem - it is called, in general PANO and is actually - sp.? 
PANOSTITIS
or something like that.  I DO know and told Ed that usually the down 
pasterns are due to a selenium deficiency.  There is a special formula for 
feeding for about a
month or two and very light exercising during the time.  Also, I know they 
will also suggest wrapping the area and put some nasty tasting thingy there 
so the dog
does not chew the wraps.  I just do not remember much about the pano as I do

not think I had it ever, but the down pasterns did show up in ONLY ONE DOG
in my 41 years of breeding.   It can't possibly be inherited since I do not 
ever knowing of it being from one generation to the next or more than just 
one pup in alitter.  We are ALL DIFFERENT in what happens and the insides of
these 
particular ones just do not seem to be able to handle what their siblings or

parents do.
I rescued and boarded MANY and now you mention it, I do not ever know of 
such leg problems in other breeds, tho there may be, in fact some stuff 
worse too.Oh, in your inquiry, I must say --- being a BITCH myself, not all
bad things 
come from them, a lot is from the STUD --- unless the bitch you are talking 
about herewas bred to the same male 3 times, she isn't the real culprit, in
my humble 
opinion.  I think environment and the individual's reaction to things really

should COUNT!
Yes yes yes --- Da List IS Da Best!   Norma no L
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx>; <magic4sure@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'list'" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Health questions/ this List


I don't have time for facebook or other Lists...so I have
a question for THIS List while the volume is low.   <G>
Pasterns.
Ed Hill posted about a pup he had with one bad pastern.
For the first time in many many years we have a pup with ONE
pastern a tad lower than the other..similar to Ed's pup I guess.
Ed...you never said what Dietary changes the Vets at UCD
advised you to use....and why.  Hope you are willing to share?
But I am wondering about this strange thing that some GSD pups
go through with pasterns.   Does this happen to OTHER BREEDS?
Is this a GSD problem only because of angulated pasterns?
IS it dietary in the opinion of breeders...as UCD suggested to
Ed when the tests showed nothing else?
IS it genetic?
WHY in a litter of normal pasterns does one go down..especially
from a bitch that never produced them before in 3 other litters.

This List is usually GREAT about sharing about health issues.

Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com



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