No, Fred, but why would beagles even come into the mix. You would start with Aussies, very much judged as our shepherds, or beardies, briards, OESDs, and many others. Their standards are so like ours, other than height to length proportiins. The ones I had a problem with were the collies and Shelties who had such a dividing line between head and structure. Decided that if the sucker could not walk to his food dish, his head was not going to be of much help. Still judge movement on Shelties. Sure would like to see your expertice in the AB ring. Carolyn EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 12/12/2005 8:51:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx writes: specialty judges to get off their duff ( yes, you, Fred ) and apply for some more breeds so that the clubs can afford to hire you. You already have an advantage in that But then I would be to the other breeds the same as the Beagle judge judging my breed. Two wrongs don't make a right. Fred ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================