Thank you Jim and all of you who have expressed support for the Amateur Futurity. Did you read what the young lady said? How much FUN she had handling, how much she LEARNED, even about GROOMING ? Many that were originally opposed due to false impressions of extra work, time, and money have seen the benefits - encouraged, NEW to the ring people, possibly future guardians of our breed, who derived PERSONAL joy and experience from the Amateur. Are we so inundated with new young members that we can don't need to give encouragement and provide a different opportunity ? As for inserting an AMATEUR CLASS into the regular Futurity - would not the winner of the amateur have to compete against the pros in the final analyses? What is the point then? The idea of NOT COMPETING WITH THE PROS IS 'OUT THE WINDOW' These amateurs want the opportunity of a level playing field. When was the last time anyone saw a Best In or Best Opposite take the honor with a non - pro on the end of the lead? Please tell me. This Amateur event was initially to be a 3 year trial at the end of which an evaluation was to be given to see if it appealed to any 'standing on the sidelines watching' or brought 'new faces to the ring'. If there are no trials there can be no evaluation. From the beginning Clubs REFUSED TO EVEN TRY - DISPITE THE FACT WE NEED NEW COMERS TO THE SPORT. SO NOW, Carol Moore has taken the bull by the horns and said " everyone, lets AT LEAST TRY' on a national basis and see if it HELPS. IF IT DOESN'T HELP THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW FOR GOOD!!!!! Now, I and a few others tried to convince the Board, last year, to have the winners of the Amateur compete at the National in the regular Futurity/Maturity finals - the motion failed - the National judging takes too long now and to add a couple of people in that big ring is, in my opinion, foolish. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Barnhart Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:14 PM To: showgsd-l List Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities and Amateurs I don't get all the griping over the Amateur Futurity. The extra work thing is just bogus imo. The ring is already set up, a few extra ribbons have to be ordered, etc. On the positive side, it's a chance for someone to get ring stewarding under their belt for a judging license. It is also an opportunity for a person judging the amateur to pick one (or is it two in the case of a specialty of their own breed) matches toward their license as well. It gives the young dogs a chance to get a feel for the ring and another training opportunity (for a lousy fifteen bucks). It gives non-professionals another chance to work on their chops. Besides all that I like having any chance to watch young GSD's in the ring. I am an amateur (I have finished ten of my own) and I will be sixty-three. I am grateful and lucky to have good health and can still run and you will see me out there with a couple of my pups. I am always glad for the chance to get in the ring especially in front of my GSD peers. Also, If the dog and I are a fit I will be glad to handle anyone's dog for them in the amateur in my region (NW). Jim Barnhart ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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