I did not compete last year in an Amateur Fut/Mat, but I did the year before. While entries may have been few, it was nice to see owners and new people, myself included, showing dogs. I sometimes feel intimidated in the ring next to professionals, because that's what they are, professionals. I love to show dogs and always handled my other breed for many years, I had to learn a new way to stack, move, groom among a few things. It was nice to be able to present that, with grooming assistance from the owner, after all, I am still new. It really did help me to learn a little more and understand a little more of what the professionals have to do in the ring. It also help me to understand where improvements in my own handling are needed. I found it a great experience for me. Everyone may not feel the same way. I showed horses most of my life in the Amateur/owner classes where we were kind of all equal in our abilities. Like when the professional handlers handle dogs, they have been doing it for many years. While some of us are just getting our feet wet. My only regret were the size of the classes, small. Sue Barr Syracuse,NY Member of The Iroquois German Shepherd Dog Club In a message dated 3/4/2011 10:59:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx writes: First of all, I would like to commend the PC for listening to the members who felt disenfranchised by the professional handlers at the Futurities. Then I want to commend them for thinking creatively and coming up with something new--the Amateur Futurity. If it isn't going to be mandatory, then it doesn't help everyone equally. This is a relatively new construct. It takes time for a new idea to get going. Perhaps we need to give this a few more years. Okay. That being said, I just hated waiting and waiting and waiting for the Amateur Futurity to be over at the Midwest Futurity last year. It took forever for the very few entrants to even get to the ring. I thought it was a complete waste of time for 99% of the people there. Since I had a 15 hour drive home, I would have appreciated an earlier start. I would like to read some posts from people who actually participated in the Amateur Futurities last year and thought they were the best thing since sliced bread. That might adjust my impatience toward the whole thing. If entries do not increase this year, I really think we ought to take another look at it. The innovation needs to work well enough to jusiify the extra time, cost, and aggravation to the clubs and participants. Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com Home of Working Champions ----- Original Message ---- From: "VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx" <VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx> To: campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx; Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx; marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; wilkersonem@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 4:52:57 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities and Amateurs In a message dated 3/3/2011 5:17:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: do not understand the logic of forcing clubs with fewer and fewer members to do more work and spend more money.Joan Joan F. Fox I certainly agree.and although it seemed a good idea when it was first suggested,I think that it has had enough trial time to see that it does not increase entries enough to warrant the extra money and work. Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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