I have seen it more in performance venues than in conformation. Also, I have heard very mean, derogatory remarks about competing in ARBA, UKC, CKC, IABCA, and other non-AKC events. It is hard to play in this dog game sometimes, especially when one isn't particularly thick-skinned. All I can say is do what you enjoy and don't expect congrats from anyone. That way, you won't be disappointed, and you will probably be happily surprised at those who ARE supportive. And NO one can take your dog's record away from you!! As the Roberts used to say in their ads of yore: Records live, opinions die. Paula, 88 days and counting ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Deb Sullivan <victorysbullseye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Bad Behavior, or Why our Clubs are dying out... AWW Kath I am so sorry that happened. I have seen this in obedience too is stinks. Wished this person would have said that to me. Some people just don't care about others, it is so sad. love ya Deb and her Boys Victory's Bullseye,TT.,CGC.,CD,ASCACD. Victory's Dubh Mac Tire, CGC(Wolf) 01/23/05-03/28/2007,lost to PAA/EPI Montauk Sue's Red Codiak ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================