Howdy folks; I am not going to be able to attend the June meeting, I will be on an Alaska cruise with my beautiful wife. Sorry, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I have several things to say concerning this most recent conversation. 1. I don't think we need to raise the dues, let's generate new members and make certain that the old members renew their dues at he beginning of each year. Change the club rules so that the dues are not diminished until April or May and then only a 25% drop, so that people will not be motivated to cheat the club by waiting for some mid-year reduction in the dues. 2. Let's get on with creating and getting distributed a club flyer so that people can be informed about the club. We can get them distributed to Mr. Telescope, the Arizona Science Center, local bookstores.....maybe a few others that I can't think of right now. Also, make certain that the flyers are available for public viewing nights, those are also interested folks. 3. I think that the availability of the Porta-Potties at Sentinel-Schwaar and Messier Marathon is an excellent use of club funds and needs to be continued. It makes a big difference in the convenience for those big star parties. 4. Let's get with the people who are insisting on a paper newsletter and see why they want a one. If they are not computer users, then that is a good reason. If they just need some training about using their computer to download and read the newsletter, then let's make certain that they receive that training. If they are getting a paper newsletter just because they don't want to download and printout their own, I think a gentle conversation about using the electronic newsletter and printing out their own might steer them to reducing the load on the newsletter editor. 5. I agree with Thad, let's create some other method for getting the newsletter out than having the ATM or deep sky groups take their precious time to fold and staple newsletters. 6. Get all the "stuff" that the club has acquired over the last two years and see what we can sell off. There is no reason for this club to own large amounts of real property. Virtually all the club members have their own telescopes, eyepieces and star charts and very few people make use of the club library that I know of. Let's make a future meeting date a Swap Meet, and rather than have Show and Tell portion, we will have a short business meeting and then a long break before the speaker. The long break will allow members, and others, to look over what we have to sell. Also allow members to show up and sell any of their used equipment or books. 7. As the club's web site manager...if any of you have ideas about how the web site can be updated to appeal to more members and attract new members, please let me know. stevecoe@xxxxxxxxx Author: Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist Saguaro Astronomy Club web site: www.saguaroastro.org