I think that obviously the type of photography determines the way you shoot, i.e documentary, sports, landscape tec..The idea that film is cheap is abhorrent to me. For one the idea that film is cheap is a relative term. Second this is the age of environmentalism. However, most of all it seems to encourage sloppy shooting. I have found that when a shoot a liberally and carefully I have much good material to choose from. When I shoot liberally- for the sake of it, I end up with a lot of junk. Marvin. -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen Zak Sent: 21 February 2010 11:00 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: The Photographic Reality On Feb 20, 2010, at 3:29 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote: >> At 01:18 AM 2/20/2010, Mark Rabiner wrote: >> >>> Also Yul Brenner and Sammy Davis Jr. never stopped clicking their >>> shutters. >>> They shot everything and everybody. All the time. You're bound to >>> get some >>> good ones out of all that. >> >> The Photo Editor of the Baltimore NEWS-AMERICAN >> told me in 1975 that, "film is cheap: the >> picture is priceless". He probably stole the line, but it is true! >> >> Marc > > > ""film is cheap" is a big thing I was taught early on and what a lot of > photographers are taught. It makes a big difference to not skimp on > film. > Now of course it cost relatively nothing to click hundreds of shots of > something but lots of people don't do that and they end up with maybe > not a > solid shot. The more I have to choose from the better the final take is > going to be. > > [Rabs] > Mark William Rabiner > Still, I can't get over the notion that "film is cheap" is actually a sneaky campaign by Kodak to promote overshooting. My bent in this matter took form when, as a teenager, I was trying to feed a 35 mm camera with Kodachrome out of my 50¢ per hour after school job. I used to load my camera in the dark to squeeze an extra two exposures out of the roll by not winding leader. Every exposure had to count and the discipline was invaluable. When eventually there were clients picking up the expense, I still used film sparingly. I believe the number of exposures made should meet the requirements of the subject. That can be a gazillion or 12 (24 if you are using 220,) depending. Anything over leads to sloppy visualization. Allen Zak --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list