I am basically the same as you Frank. I have most often considered carefully what I want to photograph. I think that its best to engage the senses before the shutter. Which means the symphony of timing, composing, visualisation etc and then the shutter. A film first approach seems to be point, shoot and hope for the best. Marvin. --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list