At 12:07 AM 9/8/05 +0100, Nick Roberts wrote: >Indeed. The Reid was developed in no small part from >the results of the British Army paying a visit on >Leitz, and the late lamented Dr Stewart Bell, for many >years lens tester for "Amateur Photographer" was part >of that Army team. Well, not quite the full tale. The British and USians were both cut off from real Leica cameras by the outbreak of the War, and both encouraged private companies to make clones, the patents being in the public domain. In the UK, Reid began working on their camera in 1940, while Kardon began work on theirs in 1942. Neither camera was to appear until long after the end of the War but it is important to understant that both companies had the benefit of the patents to guide them. In the end, by the time the British team reached Wetzlar, they found it under US Army control, and discovered to their chagrin that the Reid was grossly over-engineered. That is, the engineers who designed it had been in greater awe of German engineering than had the actual German engineers who designed the Leica camera, so that they went a factor closer on all of their tolerances. Emil Keller, then the US Army representative running the plant, and the Leitz family, were much amused at the discomfort of the British team when they came to know how a basic mistrust of honest patents had come to cost them much. But, as a result, the Reid turned out to be the best of Leica clones and one much sought-after today. Kardon did not fall into a similar trap; they built a very workmanlike copy of the Leica and it is also now quite a collectable. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! NEW FAX NUMBER: +540-343-8505 --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list