I believe the Elmarit, the first all Leica 21mm, was a disappointment to many. It was replaced by the Elmarit Asph. which is peerless (IME I have not even seen the new f1.4 never mind used it). I suspect you have been referring to the original all along, and Mark to its replacement. So you are both right :-) FD On 21 Nov, 2009, at 20:41, A. Lal wrote: > Back in the '80s I owned the 21 Elmarit. I already had the 21 SA and the 19 > Elmarit for the R. I was expecting it to be noticeably better than both. It > was not so eventually it was sold. --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list