[rollei_list] Re: OT: Leica vs. Zeiss
- From: J M N <retinaiiic@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:26:17 -0500
I don't know what to tell you Mark.
The other day I was sorting through my slides weeding out slides here and there
that I had taken with the Nikon 21mm. In the process I came up on the slides
that I had taken with the Elmarit and the Biogon and I nearly fell of the
chair. I was using the old green Kodak slide viewer with the dial rheostat to
control the brightness of the lamp. I later put the slides in a carosel and
projected them. There was a distiction between the three were clear. And I was
comparing Kodachrome with Kodachrome.
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:00:31 -0500
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: Leica vs. Zeiss
> From: mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > The Zeiss ZM 21mm f/2.8 Biogon T* is about as subtle as a tin whistle.
> > Very disappointing compared to a 21mm 2.8 Elmarit.
> > I've used them both.
> >
> > John
> >
>
>
> Your opinion varies diametrically from the target test audience the 21mm 2.8
> Elmarit is the single most critized Leica lens ever made and was rejected
> off hand by most shooters who simply continued to use the JSK 21mm 3.4
> Schneider Super Angulon instead until the Leica ASPH version came out
> recently.
> The LEICA ELMARIT-M 21 mm f/2.8 ASPH which used modern methods to cut the
> ASHP element without doubling the price of the lens.
> It successfully priced the wide spread use classic of the JSK optic and
> permitted metering through the lens.
> It's widely used. I use it. Though I'm glad I'm not buying it now.
> I got mine at the end of 2001 and its doubled in price now costing 4 grand.
> I shoot interiors with it using it like non retrofocal lens.
>
> The ZM 21mm f/2.8 Biogon is supposed to be a non retrofocal lens or darned
> close to it if that's possible and at half the size and weight of the
> ELMARIT ASPH making it one of the few ZM's I can see myself wanting to use
> like when I'm out when my camera all day. It gets raves from everybody; die
> hard Leica people.
> The LEICA ELMARIT-M 21 mm f/2.8 ASPH I'd not want hanging off my arm all
> day.
>
> The best Cosina glass for Leica and others is the slow glass it makes and
> Leica does not compete with this its marketing people seem to determine the
> parameters of its next lens. F 1.4 or faster and be there for 7 grand.
> Cosina realize the advantages. incredibly compact glass and light weight
> with performance vying with fast high end glass. You just don't get that
> fast f stop. This to me is what rangefinder photography is all about. Your
> not looking through the lens it does not have to be bright.
>
>
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
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