Howdy I know what you mean. I have an M4-2. The crap I've had to put up with from the other Msters... Javier > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 03:39:16 -0400 > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: How rare is a Rollei with a Biometar? > From: mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > On the first point, it has long been a matter of > > faith to students of things Zeiss that the words > > "economic realities" and "Zeiss" cannot properly > > be used in the same sentence. Production > > economics have never intruded into the Zeiss > > mentality since the firm was created in 1846. > > > > On the second point, we do know that Franke & > > Heidecke stated that the reason for the switch to > > the six-element Planar was required by the new > > 45mm shutter required for the integrated selenium > > light meter used in the 3.5F. Prochnow covers > > this in II ROLLEI REPORT. Carlos certainly knows more about this. > > > > Marc > > > In the Leica area when one talks about how a lens went from 6 elements to 5 > there is a faction which says it was to save money as the company had gone > down the tubes when Ernst Leitz and family lost control. But they'll just > say it was to save money they wont bring in their agenda. > The other faction says that its not the more the merrier with lens design > elements and a five element lens can be a better design then a 6 element > lens. They found a way to make it better with one less element. Which > strikes me as extremely obvious. But these die hard guys wont budge. If it > says Leica on it its not a Leica. It has to say Leitz to be a Leica. > Rollei didn't have those agenda issues that I can think of or Zeiss. But > some of it applies. > People think more is more. > > > Mark William Rabiner > > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/