[rollei_list] Re: Completely OT- Loudspeaker info

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:08:55 -0800

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From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:06 AM
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Completely OT- Loudspeaker info


> Akhil,
>
> We have had Likwitz as a guest speaker at our audio club.
>
> I am intimately familiar with his and his associate, 
> Riley's,
> theories on crossovers
>
> I have an active crossover in which I can plug in a card
> which can be configured to any order.  The Likwitz-
> Riley 2nd order is not to my liking.
>
> Jerry
>
> "A. Lal" wrote:
>
   Boy is this a name from the past. I still worked for HP 
when Linkwitz published his paper on crossovers. He was not 
the first to suggest the use of low level crossovers nor of 
phase matching crossovers. I remember my friend Richard 
Heyser, who had some fame in audio himself, being very 
skeptical of this system.
   Low level crossovers and individual amplifiers are a very 
good idea for several reasons but this is a different issue 
from the nature of the crossover itself. Crossovers are 
still something of a compromise but the ability to introduce 
delay at will using digital circuitry allows a much closer 
approach to the ideal where the acoustic fields of the 
individual speakers add in a way that approximates a single 
source.
   I have no idea what he is doing with the very strange 
looking cabinets shown on the web site. Dipole suggests to 
me that the backwave is being radiated directly. I remember 
some talk of dipole speakers in the distant past and, by 
memory, that the idea was based on a misunderstanding of the 
way loudspeakers radiate. The text on the web site is chock 
full of the sort of hype which is so familiar in consumer 
audio. My once golden-ear hearing is no longer good enough 
to make judgments about some aspects of audio system 
performance but I can still tell the difference between 
loudspeakers, at least other than the very top frequencies. 
It would be interesting to compare is speakers with good 
conventional systems.
   Many years ago I worked with Dick Heyser on his method of 
making acoustical measurements called Time Delay 
Spectrometry. I tried at the time to get HP to buy the Cal 
Tech patents, they wouldn't and assured me that the system 
wound't work. In fact, I was making such measurements using 
a standard HP spectrum analyser at the time! HP then tried 
to break the Cal Tech patent. Cal Tech has very good patent 
attorneys so they had no luck. Cal Tech would have sold the 
patent rights for very little so I think there was a large 
dose of "not invented here" about the whole thing. Another 
company finally picked them up and made the equipment 
commercially. HP had to modify the tracking generator in its 
spectrum analysers to avoid an infringement.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



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