----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Completely OT- Loudspeaker info > Eric, > > Most crossovers that I know of can only modify phase 180 > degrees. > > Jerry > > Eric Goldstein wrote: > It is possible to introduce delay, which in small amounts is the same as phase shift, into a crossover network by using all-pass sections. These are pretty limited when made of passive components but active ones can be made in the analogue domain. They tend to be quite complex. Digital alows much easier achievement of delay networks. Conventional filters of quite complex nature (lots of poles) have had wide use in the telephone network in the past. One problem is that the more complex the filter the less stable it becomes. Also, simple all pass networks are limited in frequency range. There is a huge literature on this subject, mostly couched in mathematical terms which are thoroughly beyond me. One aspect of complex filters which is often overlooked is the transient response. Any network which is capable of storing energy is capable of distorting transients. This is a major issue in high quality audio networks of all sorts. Those who remember what radio and TV network sound was like, at long distances from the originating point, before satellites will have a notion of what severe time delay skewing sounds like. Because AT&T research was on speech range chanels and not wide range audio, they came to the conclusion that this kind of distortion was not audible. In the telephone network it did not affect naturalness or articulation but in high quality broadcast circuits of any length it was obvious and sounded awful. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx