[pythonvis] Re: Text editors
- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 09:34:01 +0300
Yep. UltraEdit is accessible and it has very many helpful features.
No editor is perfect for the blind programmers though.
TextPad is very accessible and it offers very helpful features which are not
offered by other editors.
But it doesn't support Unicode fully and it is not free.
UltraEdit is almost as easy to use as TextPad, offers lots of features and it
fully supports Unicode.
But it doesn't offer all helpful features offered by TextPad and it costs much
more than TextPad.
Notepad++ offers very helpful features, fully supports Unicode and it is free.
But it is not fully accessible for Jaws users.
So, I think that for Jaws users, because they are used to pay for the software
(green), paid editors like TextPad and UltraEdit are the best.
While for NVDA users, because they might like free software, I think that
Notepad++ is the best.
There are also other editors with fewer features and some of them may be free,
some of them are based on Scintilla editor control like Notepad++ (SciTe is an
example).
I don't consider EdSharp a good editor. In any way.
And I thought this about it without even knowing that it doesn't support
Unicode. I thought that yes, this is one of its advantages, that it supports
Unicode.
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: Zahari Yurukov
To: pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 4:06 AM
Subject: [pythonvis] Re: Text editors
Hi,
I very much appreciate this initiative and I'm reading your letters with big
interest.
I have some experiance with PHP, and very little knowledge in Python, but I
want to learn and to share that what I've learned with others.
I think that Unicode support is essential for a text editor these days.
Even if you are an English speaker, you probably will want your program to be
translated in other languages some day. And I can assure you, that dealing with
different encodings is a hell.
Unicode contains not only different alphabets, but many other symbols, too.
So you would like your program to be written in unicode, and that's why you
need a unicode editor.
It is very disturbing that the developer of EdSharp refuses to include unicode
support.
Also, wouldn't it be harder for a beginner to remember hundrets of keystrokes,
instead of using standard text navigation and manipulation commands?
I personally prefer Notepad++ for everything, but I'm NVDA user.
For JAWS users, why don't you try UltraEdit. I havn't use JAWS for many years
now, but I think it should be accessible, though I can't guarantee (just an
idea).
P.S. M$ Notepad is the worst text editor ever - please don't use it, grin.
Best wishes,
Zahari
?? 27.04.2014 17:30, Richard Dinger ??????:
You should use a text editor to write programs. Word processing programs like
M$ Word or Wordpad do not work well because they include extra display and
format information that will only confuse the Python compiler. This is true
for any programming language, not just Python.
There is an endless debate among programmers about which is the best language
and another endless debate over which is the best text editor. You must select
the editor you will use, based on your own preferences.
Here is a list of text editors that I have seen recommended by visually
impaired programmers:
- M$ Notepad (bare bones editor comes with windows)
- Notepad++ (free download many advanced features)
- Notepad2 (free download many advanced features)
- Textpad (not free many advanced features)
- EdSharp (free download many advanced features very blind friendly)
The Notepad editor that comes with windows is bare bones, but I used it for
many years just because it was simple and easy to use. One drawback is that
Notepad is not “language aware” , that is it has no Python specific features or
the ability to run the script being edited.
I think the others listed above all have some language specific features, but I
am not knowledgeable enough to list them here. Read through their respective
websites to get more details.
The EdSharp editor is recommended on our web page, but is not required.
EdSharp can be configured for Python and can run scripts from within the
editor. There are several Python specific features that will make your study
of Python a little easier.
Richard
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