I have the same question.
Richard
*From:* Jeffrey Turner <mailto:jturner522@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 06, 2014 7:02 AM
*To:* pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [pythonvis] Re: Text editors
Hello Zahari,
Thank you for your comments about text editors. Can you clarify one
point for me?
As beginners (some of us Jaws users), the EdSharp editor has some
significant advantages for us, like announcing indent levels
automatically as we arrow up and down through the lines of code. I can
see the drawback of not having Unicode included, but as a beginner, I
have no aspiration to have anything I write translated into other
languages. In the event that this is a requirement someday down the
line though, what is keeping someone from taking my code, and editing
it using an editor that does support Unicode? Why would this be any
different from someone taking a *.txt file created in Notepad and
modifying it using Word or any other editor?
It seems like the lack of Unicode support is not relevant to the needs
of many of us. Am I missing something here?
JDog
*From:*pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Zahari Yurukov
*Sent:* Monday, May 05, 2014 9:07 PM
*To:* pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [pythonvis] Re: Text editors
Hi,
I very much appreciate this initiative and I'm reading your letters
with big interest.
I have some experiance with PHP, and very little knowledge in Python,
but I want to learn and to share that what I've learned with others.
I think that Unicode support is essential for a text editor these days.
Even if you are an English speaker, you probably will want your
program to be translated in other languages some day. And I can assure
you, that dealing with different encodings is a hell.
Unicode contains not only different alphabets, but many other symbols,
too.
So you would like your program to be written in unicode, and that's
why you need a unicode editor.
It is very disturbing that the developer of EdSharp refuses to include
unicode support.
Also, wouldn't it be harder for a beginner to remember hundrets of
keystrokes, instead of using standard text navigation and manipulation
commands?
I personally prefer Notepad++ for everything, but I'm NVDA user.
For JAWS users, why don't you try UltraEdit. I havn't use JAWS for
many years now, but I think it should be accessible, though I can't
guarantee (just an idea).
P.S. M$ Notepad is the worst text editor ever - please don't use it, grin.
Best wishes,
Zahari
На 27.04.2014 17:30, Richard Dinger написа:
You should use a text editor to write programs. Word processing
programs like M$ Word or Wordpad do not work well because they
include extra display and format information that will only
confuse the Python compiler. This is true for any programming
language, not just Python.
There is an endless debate among programmers about which is the
best language and another endless debate over which is the best
text editor. You must select the editor you will use, based on
your own preferences.
Here is a list of text editors that I have seen recommended by
visually impaired programmers:
- M$ Notepad (bare bones editor comes with windows)
- Notepad++ (free download many advanced features)
- Notepad2 (free download many advanced features)
- Textpad (not free many advanced features)
- EdSharp (free download many advanced features very blind friendly)
The Notepad editor that comes with windows is bare bones, but I
used it for many years just because it was simple and easy to
use. One drawback is that Notepad is not “language aware” , that
is it has no Python specific features or the ability to run the
script being edited.
I think the others listed above all have some language specific
features, but I am not knowledgeable enough to list them here.
Read through their respective websites to get more details.
The EdSharp editor is recommended on our web page, but is not
required. EdSharp can be configured for Python and can run
scripts from within the editor. There are several Python specific
features that will make your study of Python a little easier.
Richard
