[pythonvis] Re: Text editors
- From: "Richard Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 07:46:23 -0700
I have the same question.
Richard
From: Jeffrey Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 7:02 AM
To: pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pythonvis] Re: Text editors
Hello Zahari,
Thank you for your comments about text editors. Can you clarify one point for
me?
As beginners (some of us Jaws users), the EdSharp editor has some significant
advantages for us, like announcing indent levels automatically as we arrow up
and down through the lines of code. I can see the drawback of not having
Unicode included, but as a beginner, I have no aspiration to have anything I
write translated into other languages. In the event that this is a requirement
someday down the line though, what is keeping someone from taking my code, and
editing it using an editor that does support Unicode? Why would this be any
different from someone taking a *.txt file created in Notepad and modifying it
using Word or any other editor?
It seems like the lack of Unicode support is not relevant to the needs of many
of us. Am I missing something here?
JDog
From: pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pythonvis-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Zahari Yurukov
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:07 PM
To: pythonvis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pythonvis] Re: Text editors
Hi,
I very much appreciate this initiative and I'm reading your letters with big
interest.
I have some experiance with PHP, and very little knowledge in Python, but I
want to learn and to share that what I've learned with others.
I think that Unicode support is essential for a text editor these days.
Even if you are an English speaker, you probably will want your program to be
translated in other languages some day. And I can assure you, that dealing with
different encodings is a hell.
Unicode contains not only different alphabets, but many other symbols, too.
So you would like your program to be written in unicode, and that's why you
need a unicode editor.
It is very disturbing that the developer of EdSharp refuses to include unicode
support.
Also, wouldn't it be harder for a beginner to remember hundrets of keystrokes,
instead of using standard text navigation and manipulation commands?
I personally prefer Notepad++ for everything, but I'm NVDA user.
For JAWS users, why don't you try UltraEdit. I havn't use JAWS for many years
now, but I think it should be accessible, though I can't guarantee (just an
idea).
P.S. M$ Notepad is the worst text editor ever - please don't use it, grin.
Best wishes,
Zahari
На 27.04.2014 17:30, Richard Dinger написа:
You should use a text editor to write programs. Word processing programs
like M$ Word or Wordpad do not work well because they include extra display and
format information that will only confuse the Python compiler. This is true
for any programming language, not just Python.
There is an endless debate among programmers about which is the best language
and another endless debate over which is the best text editor. You must select
the editor you will use, based on your own preferences.
Here is a list of text editors that I have seen recommended by visually
impaired programmers:
- M$ Notepad (bare bones editor comes with windows)
- Notepad++ (free download many advanced features)
- Notepad2 (free download many advanced features)
- Textpad (not free many advanced features)
- EdSharp (free download many advanced features very blind friendly)
The Notepad editor that comes with windows is bare bones, but I used it for
many years just because it was simple and easy to use. One drawback is that
Notepad is not “language aware” , that is it has no Python specific features or
the ability to run the script being edited.
I think the others listed above all have some language specific features, but
I am not knowledgeable enough to list them here. Read through their respective
websites to get more details.
The EdSharp editor is recommended on our web page, but is not required.
EdSharp can be configured for Python and can run scripts from within the
editor. There are several Python specific features that will make your study
of Python a little easier.
Richard
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