I had purchased "Edge of Darkness" by Barry Thornton a few years ago. Great book BTW. It's the book you should read _after_ Adam's trilogy. It's well written and well laid out. A little anal in spots though. But what interests me most in his book is his images. They really are fantastic. What most strikes me is his skies. I can remember back to when I was a teen and in high school (back when Jesus was still a cowboy) and my art teacher laying into me because I never painted in the entire paper. I always left the skies white.. unpainted. Well, so many of my landscapes are like that.. the skies are white. I try to burn it in.. The clouds are there on the negs but after a while, I'd give up. Burning in skies is such PITA. So my question is, what do you do to get real skies on your prints ? Do you use red filters ? Do you N+3 to get your skies ? Or do you burn the living daylights (literally) to get your skies on your prints ? Thanks J -- Justin F. Knotzke jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.shampoo.ca