A purist acceptable version of the double printing technique is to make two negs without moving the camera from the tripod. Make the first one with the filtration/exposure to suit the foreground and the second with the filtration/exposure to suit the sky. When printing make the main exposure from the first neg and then put the paper away while you change negs, then use the second neg to burn in the sky. Make sure the horizon, hills, trees, etc are fully dodged when making the second exposure because the registration won't be perfect - clouds are usually fluffy enough for this not to matter. All the other mentioned techniques (red filters, polarizers, increased paper contrast for the burning in, etc) can be used in conjunction with this. And one other useful filter type that I haven't seen anyone mention is the grad - either in ND or orange flavours. Works best when the land/sky boundary is more or less straight. If you're working with long exposure times on a tripod (more than a second) you can also _dodge_ the sky when making the camera exposure. Just use a matt black piece of card and wave it around in front of the lens for roughly three quarters of the exposure (only half if you are using a yellow or orange filter as well). You have to judge where the horizon is relative to the lens and wave it from there upwards a bit and back down in a vaguely random and unceasing kind of way. If you are being really careful you may want to use a second piece of card to flag the dodging card and prevent the sun from striking the edge of it which may flare. I don't bother carrying around a grad filter, but do often carry a tripod, so have ended up using the camera dodging technique a few times. Cheers, Nicolas --- Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: <snip> > is also > possible to fake the sky by double printing using a > good sky > and cound negative. This used to be pretty common > but may > not be acceptable to purists now. Switch to Yahoo!7 Mail: Transfer all your contacts and emails from Hotmail and other providers to Yahoo!7 Mail. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/trueswitch_info.html ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.