[pure-silver] Re: Skies

  • From: Shannon Stoney <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:59:12 -0500

That's very beautiful. It looks pretty seamless too, to me.

--shannon


On May 16, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Bob Adler wrote:

I have a hybrid workflow; shoot analogue and develop my own, then hi-res scan and print digitally.
I have tried using high dynamic range imaging. See:
 
http://raflexions.com/CACoast/95_2006_10_jpbsp_%20stream_set01hdri3_16bfrom_jpbsp_stream1c6500_8badj.htm 
 
or
 
 http://tinyurl.com/ymcmnx 
 
The difficulty I've encountered is lining up my negatives digitally. Though some software does a reasonable job, close inspection reveals a reduction in sharpness from any of the original frames.
My guess is that overlaying negatives in an analogue workflow is equally imprecise.
 
Just my $0.02,
boB

nicolas <nicolas3141@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't think we should belittle d***l photographers
for tackling techniques like this. While photoshop
makes it a little easier than some of the former film
techniques it does not greatly reduce the time
involved and it only slightly reduces the effort and
skill required. It still takes skill, patience,
previsualisation and dedication to good technique to
get it right. Perhaps the only thing that d***l
really does change is that it makes it somewhat
cheaper to learn by experimentation. I applaud anyone
who is taking their photography beyond the snapshot
stage.

But perhaps this is straying too far off topic -
apologies to any grumpy old farts who are offended.

Cheers,
Nicolas


--- BOB KISS wrote:

> Dear Jonathan,
>
> I agree and, moreover, the example of
> the bridge (wikipedia) in
> evening light with the bridge lights on looked like
> a well timed (just the
> right amount of magic hour glow), well exposed,
> transparency. It used to
> take careful timing and good technique to achieve
> this. Basically Frotoshop
> releases you from the considerations of time and
> weather. It also seems to
> be much ado to achieve with digital cameras what
> film has always delivered
> in the hands of a relatively competent pro.
>
> CHEERS!
>
> BOB
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of mail1
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:01 PM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skies
>
>
>
> It's interesting that the narrow dynamic range of
> the digital sensor has
> sparked a renewal of extended range photo techniques
> to compensate for a
> problem that black and white photographers have
> managed through exposure and
> compensation development.
>
> Jonathan Ayers [mail1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Justin F. Knotzke
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:19 AM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skies
>
>
>
>
>
> On 14/05/07, Sauerwald Mark
> wrote:
>
> You can also do a similar technique with a double
> exposure in camera, with a graded neutral density
> filter, stacked with the colour filter.
>
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattgarner/498016050/
>
>
>
> It's all the rage now on Flickr and other sites..
> Take multiple exposures
> and blend 'em in Photoshop.
>
>
>
> I believe there's some sort of plugin that does
> it for you..
>
>
>
> When I first saw these images appear on the Web,
> my first instinct was
> "damn, that's impressive" until I would flip through
> the rest of their
> portfolio and realized that not all the images
> looked like that.. Then I did
> some digging and realized it was a gimmick.
>
>
>
> Unless you are a photojournalist, or someone who
> prides in presenting
> images that have not been modified in anyway, I
> think the rule of thumb is
> to push it until the viewer knows something is
> fishy.
>
>
>
> I'm sure getting decent skies can be done
> through double exposures etc..
> That's fine.
>
>
>
>
>
http://www.picture-box.com/Resources/Barry-Thornton-1.jpg
>
>
>
> Is he using just a filter to hold in the sky and
> the ground ?
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Justin F. Knotzke
> jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.shampoo.ca
>
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