Thank you, Shannon. The jpeg is fine, but the large tiff file, when magnified, easily shows misalignment. As I have been raised in the school that uber sharpness rules, this is not acceptable IMO, though OK for web viewing and small (16x16) prints. I have been told by one of our listers that the newer version of Photoslop has an improved alignment feature. I will wait a bit and test eventually. Thanks again for your kind comment, Bob Shannon Stoney <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: That's very beautiful. It looks pretty seamless too, to me. --shannon On May 16, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Bob Adler wrote: > I have a hybrid workflow; shoot analogue and develop my own, then > hi-res scan and print digitally. > I have tried using high dynamic range imaging. See: > > http://raflexions.com/CACoast/ > 95_2006_10_jpbsp_%20stream_set01hdri3_16bfrom_jpbsp_stream1c6500_8badj. > htm > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/ymcmnx > > The difficulty I've encountered is lining up my negatives digitally. > Though some software does a reasonable job, close inspection reveals a > reduction in sharpness from any of the original frames. > My guess is that overlaying negatives in an analogue workflow is > equally imprecise. > > Just my $0.02, > boB > > nicolas wrote: >> I don't think we should belittle d***l photographers >> for tackling techniques like this. While photoshop >> makes it a little easier than some of the former film >> techniques it does not greatly reduce the time >> involved and it only slightly reduces the effort and >> skill required. It still takes skill, patience, >> previsualisation and dedication to good technique to >> get it right. Perhaps the only thing that d***l >> really does change is that it makes it somewhat >> cheaper to learn by experimentation. I applaud anyone >> who is taking their photography beyond the snapshot >> stage. >> >> But perhaps this is straying too far off topic - >> apologies to any grumpy old farts who are offended. >> >> Cheers, >> Nicolas >> >> >> --- BOB KISS wrote: >> >> > Dear Jonathan, >> > >> > I agree and, moreover, the example of >> > the bridge (wikipedia) in >> > evening light with the bridge lights on looked like >> > a well timed (just the >> > right amount of magic hour glow), well exposed, >> > transparency. It used to >> > take careful timing and good technique to achieve >> > this. Basically Frotoshop >> > releases you from the considerations of time and >> > weather. It also seems to >> > be much ado to achieve with digital cameras what >> > film has always delivered >> > in the hands of a relatively competent pro. >> > >> > CHEERS! >> > >> > BOB >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> > Of mail1 >> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:01 PM >> > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skies >> > >> > >> > >> > It's interesting that the narrow dynamic range of >> > the digital sensor has >> > sparked a renewal of extended range photo techniques >> > to compensate for a >> > problem that black and white photographers have >> > managed through exposure and >> > compensation development. >> > >> > Jonathan Ayers [mail1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> > Of Justin F. Knotzke >> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:19 AM >> > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skies >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 14/05/07, Sauerwald Mark >> > wrote: >> > >> > You can also do a similar technique with a double >> > exposure in camera, with a graded neutral density >> > filter, stacked with the colour filter. >> > >> > >> > >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattgarner/498016050/ >> > >> > >> > >> > It's all the rage now on Flickr and other sites.. >> > Take multiple exposures >> > and blend 'em in Photoshop. >> > >> > >> > >> > I believe there's some sort of plugin that does >> > it for you.. >> > >> > >> > >> > When I first saw these images appear on the Web, >> > my first instinct was >> > "damn, that's impressive" until I would flip through >> > the rest of their >> > portfolio and realized that not all the images >> > looked like that.. Then I did >> > some digging and realized it was a gimmick. >> > >> > >> > >> > Unless you are a photojournalist, or someone who >> > prides in presenting >> > images that have not been modified in anyway, I >> > think the rule of thumb is >> > to push it until the viewer knows something is >> > fishy. >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm sure getting decent skies can be done >> > through double exposures etc.. >> > That's fine. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.picture-box.com/Resources/Barry-Thornton-1.jpg >> > >> > >> > >> > Is he using just a filter to hold in the sky and >> > the ground ? >> > >> > >> > >> > J >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Justin F. 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