I'll toss another couple considerations out since you say you are using distilled water. Distilled water by nature has a VERY low ionic factor. So low it almost works as an ANTI-wetting agent in fact because of the same consideration it makes for poor rinse water. (I worked in a water quality lab for a number of years where we distilled our own water to conduct our tests produce or reagents as well as clean all the reusable labware. Check your Edmonds scientific or VWR catalog for a sterile wetting agent, basically a soap but a drop or two in a gallon of water goes a long way in breaking up surface tension as well as promoting consistent mixing of your chemistry. Speaking of which are any of your chemicals starting out as solid powder form? The same condition can lead to poor liquifacation thus getting invisible to the naked eye sized chunks of chemical. Time can be your asset here mix in warm water as recommended and then let stand overnight. And one final comment, which is sure to create some controversy. On the subject of banging the canister to shake the bubbles loose, in as much as there is no large quantity of gas in most photo chemicals the sheer action of accelerating and decelerating the molecules will strip away molecules that can form a gas. The most obvious example of this is your beer or soda. Even though you have opened the container if you slam it down on the table the action causes outgasing. Water WILL outgas it's just the nature of chemistry. Now I'm not saying this is a cause but the science is there that says it can happen.... Steven Steven Kershaw, CPF Owner, "Steven did it" Photo & Frame Works 1911 Second Street, Tillamook OR 97141 ph: 503.842.4835 fax: 503.842.8410 email: stevendidit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.