[pure-silver] Re: Five year old paper?

  • From: "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:50:14 -0500

>   Make a 0.2% solution of
>Benzotriazole by dissolving 2 grams in a liter of water. 
>Adding a little Isopropyl alcohol may aid in the solution.

In my experience isopropyl alcohol should not be necessary for making a 0.2% 
solution of benzotriazole.  I routinely make a 1% solution without difficulty 
using warm water.

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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Five year old paper?



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From: "Philippe Gauthier" <pgauth@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:22 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Five year old paper?


> Richard Knoppow a écrit :
>
>>  As far as buying very old paper I would do it only if
>> its _very_ cheap.
>>
>
> I did last year and got relatively lucky. I got a huge
> pile of old paper for the equivalent of two US dollars. 
> Most of the stuff was obviously much too old - for 
> instance, some 1964 vintage Kodak Panalure, but I was 
> lucky enough to find a box of 8x10 Ilford MG IV RC and 5x7 
> Ilford MG IV RC cooltone in perfect condition. There was 
> also a package of 10 to 15 years old Seagull Oriental that 
> turned out to be quite good, but recent looking Kodak 
> Polycontrast IV turned out to be severely fogged - I could 
> almost use the test strips as grey cards!
>
> Now, if I buy some of this paper and find out that there
> is some minor fog, how much potassium bromide should I add 
> to my developer? Can you give me a starting point in grams 
> per liter?
>
> PG
>

   For Benzotriazole
   Make a 0.2% solution of
Benzotriazole by dissolving 2 grams in a liter of water. 
Adding a little Isopropyl alcohol may aid in the solution.
  Add about 15ml of this solution to a liter of working 
strength
developer and test it. If there is still fog keep adding it 
in 15 ml
increments until the fog disappears. If you add a lot you 
may have to
increase the exposure somewhat.

 For Potassium bromide I would test with the equivalent of 
about 5 grams per liter in the _stock_ solution. Dektol and 
similar developers have around 2 grams per liter as they 
come. One can increase the amount in the stock to as much as 
20 grams per liter although development time will be slowed. 
I give the equivalent for stock since I don't know how much 
you dilute.

    Benzotriazole will tend to shift the paper color toward 
blue, Bromide toward yellow or brown.

---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

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