[pure-silver] Re: another toning question

  • From: "janet ness" <nessj@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:57:19 -0800

Thanks all for the advice.  It gives me some techniques to try.

Janet Ness
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Rudman 
  To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:12 AM
  Subject: [pure-silver] Re: another toning question



  You are right Richard, I do try to follow this list whenever I can. I have
  been in the USA for the last 2 months though, with limited email access and
  just got back 2 days ago to an absolute mountain of mail, bills and emails,
  so I am just surfacing! I see there has been quite a lot of recent
  correspondence on toning here.
  Janet, I think Michael Kenna's prints are split 'sepia' toned with a very
  short bleach stage to leave plenty of 'black' silver in the mid and low
  tones.
  I use this process a lot and dilute the bleach substantially to control the
  result, according to the paper I use. If I use a warm tone paper (these
  bleach much faster than neutral or cold tone papers) I will dilute bleach to
  1/10th or maybe even 1/20th of 'recommended working strength' and time it to
  the second as it always goes further than your eyes tell you. For MGWT this
  could be just 30 seconds depending on the bleach. I try to avoid higher
  dilutions than this as the action of ferricyanide appears to change as it is
  more diluted. MGIV will give cooler colours in sepia toners than MGWT and
  will bleach more slowly too. The colours may also be altered by using a
  variable colour sepia toner (thiourea a.k.a. thiocarbamide) and/or by
  various other tricks. 
  Tim


  http://www.worldbookoflithprinting.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Knoppow
  Sent: 07 November 2005 14:10
  To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [pure-silver] Re: another toning question



  -----Original Message-----
  From: janet ness <nessj@xxxxxxx>
  Sent: Nov 6, 2005 11:01 PM
  To: pure-silver <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [pure-silver] another toning question

  I admire the prints of Michael Kenna.  I like their subtle tone, a slight
  tan in the grays and highlights.  I have heard that he uses sepia.  I have
  limited experience with sepia toning.  How would he use sepia to achieve
  such a tone?  Would it be by partial bleaching?

  Janet Ness

        Its hard to tell from his web site but whats there looks more like
  lith prints than toning- maybe. I've tried partial bleaching but get a much
  stronger color on the toned parts, perhaps very slight bleaching would do
  it. 
        Probably the best single source of information on toning is Tim
  Rudman's book _The Photographer's Master Printing Course_  He also has a
  book on lith printing. I thought he followed this list. 



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  Richard Knoppow
  dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Los Angeles, CA, USA
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