[pure-silver] Re: Five year old paper?
- From: "Tim Rudman" <ps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:24:01 -0000
Papers vary hugely in my experience Phillippe. I never buy old papers but
sometimes when my freezers are full paper has to sit on the shelf! ( I keep
many different papers, which can produce problems). Some papers lose their
edge in as little as 6 months. Some last way longer. VC papers can often be
used beyond their 'fresh' date by using a higher filtration, as they lose
contrast with age. Pot Brom in the developer can revitalise some older
papers too. A lot depends on storage conditions and on how fresh they were
when bought in the 1st place (I have sent back occasional 'fresh' papers
that clearly were not). Don't offer too much and be prepared to 'play' with
them. Sometimes these papers are great for bleach & redevelopment - or for
Lith printing
Tim
http://www.worldbookoflithprinting.com
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[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Per Ohstrom
Sent: 07 November 2005 20:46
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Five year old paper?
I have inherited quite a lot of paper from my father, a workmate and my
workplace. Some of my father's paper is from the late 1950's. Not much
worked, except the Gevaert, wich was soft and had a yellowish tint. It
worked though, and gave a nice old-fashioned look to the prints. The Agfa
Brovira Speed from the early 80's works nicely, except for the rear side,
which is a bit yellow. The Ilford MG II and III (10-15 years old?) are much
softer than they should, but otherwise they seem to work. If I remember
correctly one package was rather badly fogged, though. From my work I got
some Kodak Polycontrast RC paper which expired 2001 but is absolutely
perfect. Nothing wrong at all four years after exp. date. I think this was
kept in a fridge part of the time, though not all the time.
I know nothing about Oriental or Forte. Many have warned that Agfa
Multicontrast Classic doesn't keep well.
My experience is that papers last quite a lot longer than expiration date.
I think it is worth a try with these five-year-olds. On the other hand I
would not pay much for it, absolutely not more than say 25% of today's price
because of the risk and because there is a lot of old paper out there.
What do others think?
Per
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:00:40 +0100, Philippe Gauthier <pgauth@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> I am offered a lot of FB paper for a low price, but I don't want to
> waste my money on fogged paper. This paper is about 5-6 years old and
> no special care was taken for its preservation, like freezing it or
> keeping it in a fridge, except that it was kept outside the darkroom.
> The brands are Ilford, Agfa, Oriental, Forte and perhaps some others,
> mostly VC, FB paper. What are the brands that are most likely to be
> fogged and those that are most likely to be still good? How long can I
> expect to keep the papers that are still good?
>
> Philippe Gauthier
>
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