Re: making standard CD's
- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:52:57 +0100
Steve - I have to give way to you on this, as I have been going off memory,
as it has been a long time since I've used an audio disk in my PTR1, always
using data disks. I do hope I haven't confused Bill! -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Richards" <stephenrichards1951@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| Hi Andy,
| Is that right? I've just checked and put a new blank audio CD in the
PTR1.
| It announces Audio Digital CD. Then when I go to RECORDING SETTINGS and
go
| through the options you can have DEFAULT or CUSTOM. You cannot choose 44 1
| PCM Stereo even under CUSTOM as there are no formats offered. They are
only
| available as a choice when you insert a standard VD-R(W).
|
| So I conclude that if Bill is using a MUSIC format blank CD the format
will
| be automatically correct.
|
| Regards
| Steve
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:01 PM
| Subject: Re: making standard CD's
|
|
| > Ok. That's good that is said "music cd." Now then, did you choose 44.1
pcm
| > stereo from the recording menu? -
| >
| > Andy
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Bill Benson" <billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:43 PM
| > Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| >
| >
| > | Andy,
| > |
| > | Yes, it said "music CD".
| > |
| > | Bill
| > |
| > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:42 AM
| > | Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > |
| > |
| > | Bill - great that you've made some progress with this.
| > |
| > | Are you absolutely sure you used a music cd for the recording? What
| > | announcement did you get from the PTR1 when you first inserted the
| > disk? -
| > |
| > | Andy
| > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | From: "Bill Benson" <billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:06 PM
| > | Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > |
| > |
| > || Dear List,
| > ||
| > || Penny, Andy and Steve, you guys have just been great about trying to
| > help
| > | me, and I do really appreciate it awfully much. A new disk seemed to
do
| > the
| > | trick; however, I can't get my recording to play on a regular CD
player
| > for
| > | some reason. It does play fine on the player in my computer with
| > Windows
| > | Media player, and of course on the PTR1, but not on another CD player.
| > Oh
| > | well, at least I did get the recording. Thank you, guys, very very
| > much!
| > ||
| > || Bill
| > || e-mail: billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > || ----- Original Message -----
| > || From: "Steve Richards" <stephenrichards1951@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:44 AM
| > || Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > ||
| > ||
| > || Hi, Bill, Andy and Penny,
| > || This damaged disc thing. I've had it happen on perfectly good
popular
| > | music
| > || CDs and then it clears up for no reason!. However a few thouights:
| > || 1. If Bill is visually impaired like me, could it be that the disc
is
| > | going
| > || in face up instead of face down?
| > || 2. Are there finger marks on the disc? A light wipe with a damp
cloth
| > || working from the outer edge towards the centre may help..
| > || 3. CD-RWs can, I find, be more problematical than CD-Rs.
| > ||
| > || However, I'd suggest starting again with a Maxell or Sony MUSIC 80min
| > | disc.
| > ||
| > || Regards
| > || Steve
| > || ----- Original Message -----
| > || From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:11 PM
| > || Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > ||
| > ||
| > || > Penny, maybe you can't! I was just going from memory, maybe the add
| > to
| > | is
| > || > only available for data disks. Sounds like Bill would gain from
| > | listening
| > || > to
| > || > the menu choices, and getting better understanding of what is
| > available
| > | to
| > || > him. It puzzles me as to why he only gets the damaged disk thing
| > after
| > || > finalising -
| > || >
| > || > Andy
| > || > ----- Original Message -----
| > || > From: "Penny Golden" <goldpen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || > To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:56 PM
| > || > Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > || >
| > || >
| > || > I did not know on a music cd you could choose 2 options.
| > || > I always figured that you chose the finalize
| > || > option and it was an automatic closure.
| > || > But no:
| > || > the close option is what you want, because you
| > || > probably have put all you want on that disk and
| > || > your finalizing it means that you do not want to add more to the
| > disk.
| > || > You obviously can choose finalize with the
| > || > option to record or add more. I use that
| > || > sometimes when I am doing book recordings of several hours'
duration.
| > || >
| > || > What others have been writing is the same as I
| > || > would have said, could I get my thoughts together as brilliantly.
| > || > I can say that I've done an awful lot of cd
| > || > recording, making a playable cd. I often copy
| > || > them too--that is, copy the cd's i've recorded.
| > || >
| > || > The only time you want to pick the
| > || > still-recordable option is if you plan to add to the cd.
| > || >
| > || > Now I understand that your disk is saying that it is a bad disk or
| > || > something.
| > || > But have you taken these cd's and tried them in another player?
| > || > Sometimes the plex decides something's bad and it's just fine in
| > another
| > || > unit.
| > || > Blessings, Penny
| > || > At 12:39 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
| > || >>Dear Penny,
| > || >>
| > || >>I think I didn't quite state it correctly: What
| > || >>it says at the start of finalizing is that I
| > || >>have two options after finalization. One is
| > || >>"disk recordable, and the other is disk
| > || >>closed". I chose the disk closed option, and
| > || >>wonder if I should have picked the other option.
| > || >>
| > || >>Thank you so much for your help. It is greatly appreciated!
| > || >>
| > || >>Bill
| > || >>e-mail: billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > || >>----- Original Message -----
| > || >>From: "Penny Golden" <goldpen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >>To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:33 PM
| > || >>Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > || >>
| > || >>
| > || >>I never have heard of this question: disk closed.
| > || >>When one finalizes, the program itself lets
| > || >>you know when the disk is truly finished with finalizing.
| > || >>It sometims (but very rarely) happens that you
| > || >>get a bad disk; and you might even get a couple bad ones in a row.
| > || >>but normally that doesn't happen.
| > || >>Sure hope you get some good info on this, as some
| > || >>of the rest of us are learning from your experiences.
| > || >>Hope it clears up for you.
| > || >>Penny
| > || >>At 11:31 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
| > || >> >Dear Andy,
| > || >> >
| > || >> >Yes, it was after I successfully recorded to the
| > || >> >disk, shut down, then went back to play it again
| > || >> >that it said "damaged disk". Then I tried a
| > || >> >different disk fresh from the shrink wrap and it
| > || >> >said the same thing. I wonder if I damaged it
| > || >> >in the finalization process, maybe didn't let it
| > || >> >have time to finish. Also, the last thing I did
| > || >> >after finalizing was close the disk, and it said
| > || >> >"disk closed". Could that have messed it up?
| > || >> >
| > || >> >I really
| > || >> >do appreciate all your help! Would it help if I
| > || >> >did first record to the card? If I do, how do I copy it onto a
| > disk
| > || >> >then?
| > || >> >
| > || >> >Bill
| > || >> >e-mail: billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Original Message -----
| > || >> >From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >> >To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >> >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:15 AM
| > || >> >Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > || >> >
| > || >> >
| > || >> >Bill - firstly, no, you don't need to record to the card, you can
| > | record
| > || >> >strait to disk, but as we are all saying, in order for you to be
| > able
| > | to
| > || >> >play it in a conventional music only cd player, it will need to
be
| > an
| > || >> >audio
| > || >> >and not a data cd, so you will need to be careful when buying.
| > || >> >
| > || >> >Ok, in respect of the invalid or damage disk thing, I have found
| > with
| > | my
| > || >> >PTR1, and others have had similar experience, that it doesn't
like
| > || >> >certain
| > || >> >brands of cd, for some strange reason, and that could be your
| > problem.
| > || >> >Can
| > || >> >you make a recording ok? is it only when after finalising the
disk
| > and
| > || >> >then
| > || >> >trying to replay it that you get that message? -
| > || >> >
| > || >> >Andy
| > || >> >----- Original Message -----
| > || >> >From: "Bill Benson" <billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >> >To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >> >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:54 AM
| > || >> >Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > || >> >
| > || >> >
| > || >> >| Dear Frank,
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| Am I understanding then that I should first record to the card
| > | rather
| > || >> >than
| > || >> >directly to the CD? Also, I am now encountering a new problem:
| > When
| > | I
| > || >> >finished recording to the disk, finalized, then closed it, shut
| > down
| > | and
| > || >> >went back to play it and it says "damaged or defective disk". I
| > tried
| > || >> >inserting a brand new disk just taken from the shrink wrap and
dog
| > | gone
| > || >> >if
| > || >> >it doesn't say the same thing, "damaged or defective disk". What
| > | could
| > || >> >be
| > || >> >wrong?
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| Many thanks for all the help you can give.
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| Bill Benson
| > || >> >| e-mail: billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > || >> >| ----- Original Message -----
| > || >> >| From: "Frank Cuta" <cuta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >> >| To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >> >| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:15 AM
| > || >> >| Subject: RE: making standard CD's
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| Actually the only requirement for making a standard CD is that
| > you
| > | use
| > || >> >a
| > || >> >| blank audio CD. Your actual initial recording onto your
flash
| > | card
| > || >> >| can be any format you wish either pcm44 pcm 22 pcm256 etc. You
| > need
| > || >> >to
| > || >> >| understand that the highest quality copy will be produced if
you
| > || >> >record
| > || >> >| with pcm44. But you may not need the highest quality or may
not
| > | have
| > || >> >| enough storage space on your flash card to record at the
highest
| > || >> >| quality. For example use pcm44 for making a copy of a CD. But
| > if
| > | you
| > || >> >| are recording an old monofonic LP you are wasting space since
| > pcm22
| > | is
| > || >> >| just as high quality as pcm44 but monofonic. For radio shows
| > that
| > I
| > || >> >| want to put onto standard CD for playing back in my car stereo
| > || >> >Iusually
| > || >> >| only record the original flash card copy using mp3 128. When
you
| > "
| > || >> >| backup" to the audio format CD you still can select music
quality
| > | and
| > || >> >| the mp3 will be converted to a standard CD music file. This
| > quality
| > || >> >is
| > || >> >| completely adequate for fm radio quality and takes much less
| > space
| > | on
| > || >> >| my flash card.
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| Frank Cuta
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| -----Original Message-----
| > || >> >| From: ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > || >> >| [mailto:ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy
| > Collins
| > || >> >| Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:43 PM
| > || >> >| To: ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > || >> >| Subject: Re: making standard CD's
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| You need to choose 44.1 pcm stereo, and to use a music cd and
not
| > a
| > || >> >data
| > || >> >| cd,
| > || >> >| and then finalise it after the recording -
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| Andy
| > || >> >| ----- Original Message -----
| > || >> >| From: "Bill Benson" <billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >> >| To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > || >> >| Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:25 PM
| > || >> >| Subject: making standard CD's
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >|| Dear List,
| > || >> >||
| > || >> >|| I would like to record some standard cd's on my ptr1. I want
to
| > be
| > || >> >| able
| > || >> >| to play them then in turn on a standard cd player. What
settings
| > | must
| > || >> >I
| > || >> >|
| > || >> >| have my ptr1 on to do this? I think there are two number
| > choices:
| > | 44
| > || >> >| and
| > || >> >| 128; does it matter which of these I choose. Also, the ptr1
says
| > to
| > || >> >| press
| > || >> >| the record key to prepare for daisey recording. If I don't
want
| > a
| > || >> >| daisey
| > || >> >| recording, what must I change.
| > || >> >||
| > || >> >|| Thank you very much in advance!
| > || >> >||
| > || >> >|| Bill Benson
| > || >> >|| e-mail:
| > || >> >| billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx²jS.{µ¦º²¹~-²Âºn?¶±Sz?¢yÉ-?¥S?ÿÁz¶f²¶±
| > || >> >|
| > || >>
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