Re: making standard CD's

  • From: "Steve Richards" <stephenrichards1951@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:44:47 +0100

Hi, Bill, Andy and Penny,
This damaged disc thing. I've had it happen on perfectly good popular music CDs and then it clears up for no reason!. However a few thouights: 1. If Bill is visually impaired like me, could it be that the disc is going in face up instead of face down? 2. Are there finger marks on the disc? A light wipe with a damp cloth working from the outer edge towards the centre may help..
3. CD-RWs can, I find, be more problematical than CD-Rs.

However, I'd suggest starting again with a Maxell or Sony MUSIC 80min disc.

Regards
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: making standard CD's


Penny, maybe you can't! I was just going from memory, maybe the add to is
only available for data disks. Sounds like Bill would gain from listening to
the menu choices, and getting better understanding of what is available to
him. It puzzles me as to why he only gets the damaged disk thing after
finalising -

Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny Golden" <goldpen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: making standard CD's


I did not know on a music cd you could choose 2 options.
I always figured that you chose the finalize
option and it was an automatic closure.
But no:
the close option is what you want, because you
probably have put all you want on that disk and
your finalizing it means that you do not want to add more to the disk.
You obviously can choose  finalize with the
option to record or add more.  I use that
sometimes when I am doing book recordings of several hours' duration.

What others have been writing is the same as I
would have said, could I get my thoughts together as brilliantly.
I can say that I've done an awful lot of cd
recording, making a playable cd.  I often copy
them too--that is, copy the cd's i've recorded.

The only time you want to pick the
still-recordable option is if you plan to add to the cd.

Now I understand that your disk is saying that it is a bad disk or
something.
But have you taken these cd's and tried them in another player?
Sometimes the plex decides something's bad and it's just fine in another
unit.
Blessings, Penny
At 12:39 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
Dear Penny,

I think I didn't quite state it correctly:  What
it says at the start of finalizing is that I
have two options after finalization.  One is
"disk recordable, and the other is disk
closed".  I chose the disk closed option, and
wonder if I should have picked the other option.

Thank you so much for your help.  It is greatly appreciated!

Bill
e-mail:  billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Penny Golden" <goldpen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: making standard CD's


I never have heard of this question: disk closed.
When one finalizes, the program itself lets
you  know when the disk is truly finished with finalizing.
It sometims (but very rarely) happens that you
get a bad disk; and you might even get a couple bad ones in a row.
but normally that doesn't happen.
Sure hope you get some good info on this, as some
of the rest of us are learning from your experiences.
Hope it clears up for you.
Penny
At 11:31 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
>Dear Andy,
>
>Yes, it was after I successfully recorded to the
>disk, shut down, then went back to play it again
>that it said "damaged disk".  Then I tried a
>different disk fresh from the shrink wrap and it
>said the same thing.  I wonder if I damaged it
>in the finalization process, maybe didn't let it
>have time to finish.  Also, the last thing I did
>after finalizing was close the disk, and it said
>"disk closed".  Could that have messed it up?
>
>I really
>do appreciate all your help!  Would it help if I
>did first record to the card?  If I do, how do I copy it onto a disk
>then?
>
>Bill
>e-mail:  billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Original Message -----
>From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:15 AM
>Subject: Re: making standard CD's
>
>
>Bill - firstly, no, you don't need to record to the card, you can record
>strait to disk, but as we are all saying, in order for you to be able to
>play it in a conventional music only cd player, it will need to be an
>audio
>and not a data cd, so you will need to be careful when buying.
>
>Ok, in respect of the invalid or damage disk thing, I have found with my
>PTR1, and others have had similar experience, that it doesn't like
>certain
>brands of cd, for some strange reason, and that could be your problem.
>Can
>you make a recording ok? is it only when after finalising the disk and
>then
>trying to replay it that you get that message? -
>
>Andy
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Benson" <billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:54 AM
>Subject: Re: making standard CD's
>
>
>| Dear Frank,
>|
>| Am I understanding then that I should first record to the card rather
>than
>directly to the CD?  Also, I am now encountering a new problem:  When I
>finished recording to the disk, finalized, then closed it, shut down and
>went back to play it and it says "damaged or defective disk".  I tried
>inserting a brand new disk just taken from the shrink wrap and dog gone
>if
>it doesn't say the same thing, "damaged or defective disk".  What could
>be
>wrong?
>|
>| Many thanks for all the help you can give.
>|
>| Bill Benson
>| e-mail:  billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>| ----- Original Message -----
>| From: "Frank Cuta" <cuta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>| To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:15 AM
>| Subject: RE: making standard CD's
>|
>|
>| Actually the only requirement for making a standard CD is that you use
>a
>| blank  audio CD.  Your actual initial  recording onto your flash card
>| can be any format you wish either pcm44 pcm 22 pcm256 etc. You need >to >| understand that the highest quality copy will be produced if you >record
>| with pcm44.  But you may  not need the highest quality or may not have
>| enough storage space on your flash card to record at the highest
>| quality.  For example use pcm44 for making a copy of a CD.  But if you
>| are recording an old monofonic LP you are wasting space since pcm22 is
>| just as high quality as pcm44 but monofonic.  For radio shows that I
>| want to put onto standard CD for playing back in my car stereo >Iusually
>| only record the original flash card copy using mp3 128.  When you "
>| backup" to the audio format CD you still can select music quality and
>| the mp3 will be converted to a standard CD music file. This quality >is
>| completely adequate for fm radio quality and  takes much less space on
>| my flash card.
>|
>|
>| Frank Cuta
>|
>| -----Original Message-----
>| From: ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>| [mailto:ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>| Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:43 PM
>| To: ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>| Subject: Re: making standard CD's
>|
>|
>| You need to choose 44.1 pcm stereo, and to use a music cd and not a
>data
>| cd,
>| and then finalise it after the recording  -
>|
>| Andy
>| ----- Original Message -----
>| From: "Bill Benson" <billben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>| To: <ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>| Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 8:25 PM
>| Subject: making standard CD's
>|
>|
>|| Dear List,
>||
>|| I would like to record some standard cd's on my ptr1.  I want to be
>| able
>| to play them then in turn on a standard cd player.  What settings must
>I
>|
>| have my ptr1 on to do this?  I think there are two number choices:  44
>| and
>| 128; does it matter which of these I choose.  Also, the ptr1 says to
>| press
>| the record key to prepare for daisey recording.  If I don't want a
>| daisey
>| recording, what must I change.
>||
>|| Thank you very much in advance!
>||
>|| Bill Benson
>|| e-mail:
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