[projectaon] Re: Magic Spear (FotW)
- From: Chris Neilson <crusty.chris@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: projectaon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:47:25 +1300
Actually thats an interesting point.
By having access to the magic Spear you must also have taken the
Sommerswerd by the time you finished the book (didnt actually think of
that). However, the wording (
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/02fotw/discplnz.htm) implies that
you can opt to not take the Sommerswerd on later non-Grandmaster
adventures. So I think we can safely assume that you could have either
the Magic Spear or the Sommerswerd or both for any book after 02fotw
(but before 13tplor).
the only books (01-24) that contain the text "Helghast" are:
$ grep -ril Helghast * | sed 's#/.*##' | uniq
02fotw
03tcok
08tjoh
14tcok
19wb
So it appears the time this issue should be relevant is 03tcok and
08tjoh as Ben mentioned.
Heres two problematic sections:
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/03tcok/sect328.htm
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/03tcok/sect170.htm
Both of which require you to specifically have the Sommerswerd to
survive an insta-death.
Another relevant section is
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/08tjoh/sect60.htm which already
has a footnote that specifically states " You should also turn to this
number if you possess the Dagger of Vashna, the Jewelled Mace, or the
Magic Spear"
The section in http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/08tjoh/sect113.htm
is not of concern because you have access to Paido's (magical) sword so
there is no insta-death involved.
Off on another tangent, its possible that you take Paido's (magical)
sword in http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/08tjoh/sect47.htm and Im
not sure if you ever have to return it. Although its never stated that
its to be recorded on your Action Chart (either as a Weapon or a Special
Item). But surely Paido would be willing to trade his Magical sword for
this perfectly good non-magical one right? :)
On 21/02/13 13:12, Benjamin I Krefetz wrote:
All I can think of are the helghast combats in 03tcok and 08tjoh where
theoretically you could have lost the Sommerswerd for whatever reason
but still have the Magic Spear.
Ben
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Chris Neilson wrote:
The Magic Spear was never originally stated to be a weapon-like
Special Item - this was added by Project Aon (refer to the errata).
Based on this change then this would imply you can use it as a
weapon-like Special Item (which is what I suspect you are asking) in
later books up to the Grandmaster series (at which point it is not
listed as a Special Item that is allowed to be carried over from
previous books). You would not be able to use it as a regular
run-of-the-mill Weapon (as its quite clearly stated to be a Special
Item).
In terms of impact on gameplay, the Magic Spear provides no special
combat bonus so the only issue with this I can see would be if you
came across another Helghast (or similar enemy) that could be damaged
by it in books 3-12.
Personally, I cannot see a problem with this unless someone can raise
a situation in which you should be able to fight/avoid a insta-death
due to having access to the Magic Spear.
On 21/02/13 05:41, Christian Jauvin wrote:
Hi all,
From FotW's Section 106 and beyond:
http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/02fotw/sect106.htm
can you use the Magic Spear as a regular weapon afterward (if you keep
it), against regular enemies (even though it is a Special Item)?
Thanks,
Christian
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