[project1dev] Re: Editor Question
- From: Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:30:43 -0700
This reminds me of when I was trying to learn milkshape to do my own
models, before I let the art people just do their thing :)
Remember you can always have them do models for you Nick. Our art
team is awesome. I know what it feels like to want to have 100%
control over your part of the project but we need to ask for help
sometimes!
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Alan Wolfe<alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> yeah no problem.
>
> whats he sayin holds true for making walls and things but we can cross that
> bridge when we come to it (:
>
> and thats only if we want walls to follow rigid geometry. cavemap did but i
> dunno what eric has in mind
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:08 PM, katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds good, thanks Alan. I was just like "what the crap", I have no idea
>> what he is referring to, and he was saying all models should use that
>> parameter.
>>
>> I was thinking...wow what did I miss??? I never hear of MINS, or it used
>> in that context.
>>
>> --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: Editor Question
>> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 10:55 PM
>>
>> You can ignore it Katie, it's some weird thing in milkshape.
>>
>> I didnt know what it was til I talked w/ Nick and Nick is new to 3d so he
>> thought it was standard terminology.
>>
>> Basically things are good as is, Nick just found out somethin for how you
>> build walls but how are are building models is fine and dandy (:
>>
>> So yeah, no worries, all is well!
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> WHAT IS "MINS" guys?
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: Editor Question
>>> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 6:53 PM
>>>
>>> yeah, i wanted to make sure and speak up so that we know that in this
>>> case yeah, it fixes this problem, but in general we don't want to do it like
>>> that
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:51 PM, <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh cause he said "everything"
>>>>
>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Alan Wolfe
>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:50:15 -0700
>>>> To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: Editor Question
>>>> well it's not a hard fast rule, there's plenty of exceptions to this
>>>>
>>>> but nick was finding with his model he needed to put one corner of the
>>>> wall at 0,0,0 instead of our normal placement rule of let the model rest on
>>>> 0,0,0
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:48 PM, katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you mean "mins"?
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: Editor Question
>>>>> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 6:44 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically, yea. Note to all modelers, it would be a huge help to have
>>>>> everything with a "mins" of 0,0,0.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just spent the last 30 minutes trying to figure out the exact math
>>>>> and how to explain it, and Alan hits it on the head, as usual.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> let me guess, you centered the thing at 0,0,0 but had the bottom
>>>>>> resting on 0,0,0 so in effect the center of your wall was in the middle
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the wall
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if so, yeah, you gotta have one side flush with the "0 plane" :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I figured out the problem with the model misalignment, and this will
>>>>>>> be VERY important to all models/placement! I will post the specifics
>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>> next few minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok im headin home ill check it out in a few
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fakewall doesn't align properly along the Y or Z axis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cool!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so whats the deal w/ the models?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Nick Klotz
>>>>>>>>>> <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Moving the light script from templemap.lua to
>>>>>>>>>>> templemap_geometry.lua fixed this! Good thinking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Alan Wolfe
>>>>>>>>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok, one prob at a time but after lighting we can talk about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> model
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Nick Klotz
>>>>>>>>>>>> <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have another error with the editor. FakeWall has dimensions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 30x60x5, regular wall has dimesntions of 60x60x5
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, in order to almost align the pieces on the Z axis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FakeWall must be around -48.50, regular wall at -29.00
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, although the editor says the coordinates for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FakeWall are aligned properly, you can easily tell this is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I will attempt the fix you suggested, and let you know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how that goes for the lighting. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Alan Wolfe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well im gonna be home in about 2 hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you cant figure it out by then, check in what you have and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'll check it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very strange...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Nick Klotz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I attached screenshots of what I see, LOAD vs. EDIT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you still want me to check in right now I will.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:51 PM, <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am at laundry mat and hiding from creepy chix w/ 4 kids
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alan Wolfe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:50:35 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: Editor Question
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you see when editing is the same as what you see in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> game so somethin must be wrong wif da models.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you check em in i or eric can check em out and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the problem is (:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Nick Klotz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to view textures/shading while editing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While I am editing everything is solid white; the scheme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes it more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to edit the finer details of positions.
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