Andreas: I have a DoubleTalk synthesizer. I can't remember if I was using dos or win95 at the time, but happened to stumble across the word faq. The doubletalk pronounced it as 2 syllables, fa (the a of which was pronounced as a short u) & q. I guess u know what *that* sounded like! My puter was givin me the verbal version of the bird! I've gotta say it quite shocked me when it first occurred! It took a bit to figure out what the offending word actually was. I guess I could (& probably should) have changed it in the pronunciation dictionary, but it was so damn funny I just left it. I had to get a new Doubletalk recently cuz the cable on the old 1 bit it & I don't know if RC Systems has changed the way the doubletalk handles that acronym or not--they may have as I wouldn't put it past kids to write that in their papers & have the dt read it aloud in class just for the shock value of it. Best of luck w/your discertation. On 2/9/08, Dale Leavens <dleavens@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I still use soft vert on a DOS machine and some applications but using the > Votrax PSS RS-232 synthasizer. The synth is a little slow however the point > I want to make here is that when the letters s h i t in a single word or in > certain other combinations occur the synth says sugar. I don't know if this > is a feature of the PSS or Soft Vert however having discovered this I had to > test every so called sware word I could think of all in the interest of good > scientific investigation of course. > > Apparently only the one word was considered sufficiently offensive to the > blind to require preserving our indignity. > > I still have a Maryland Computer HP/125 up stairs which worked last time I > tried it. > > Once, in a state of frustration I typed in a message refering to sex and > travel. The computer responded "Would you like to be on top?". I told David > Kostician about this, he had sold me the computer, I understand from im that > he tested this on every subsequent installation he came into contact with > but apparently never had a similar response. Some little humour someone > added to the operating system i suppose. > > I will say that I am sometimes offended by the presumptions that synthasizer > producers tend to make. Many character combinations which happen to > corespond with the short forms of American states will speak the long form > of that state name. This is true of scanning in K1000 and used to be so in > Open Book, may be still. CA (C A) may refer to any number of things but in > the world of the blind it generally is spoken California.It doesn't seem to > happen so much in things like Web addresses. The trouble here is that by > making such assumptions it can complicate understanding context, maybe a > programming variable maybe a literaal use in a word processing document. > Somehow it feels patronising to me to have someone make decisions about how > I should read a two letter sequence. In my business for example, the > contraction Dr. is more commonly used for Doctor but most of my adaptive > equipment assumed\s I prefer Drive. > > Wel, that is about all the anicdotes I can think of just now. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: Some stories > > > > Hi Andreas -- I don't have a specific story, but back around 1991 I was > > using a DOS screen reader Called Vert -- actually the top of the line was > > called Vert Plus, which I used at work, and at home I used PersonalVert, > > dubbed "the little PerVert" by those who used it. > > Anyway, VertPlus used a hardware synth called the Prose card. It was > > developed by a Swedish computer scientist who used his own voice to define > > the various sounds of speech which were concatenated to form words. The > > firmware had many heuristics to make sentences sound natural, but it was > > not > > advanced right then (remember 1991 was still pretty primitive in this > > area). > > But the result of the implementation had some surprises: First, the synth > > sounded like it had a Swedish accent, and for that reason I nicknamed the > > system "Swen". What was also funny was that the sound of "j" which > > doesn't occur in Swedish, sounded like "sh" or "h" or even "k" -- so that > > some words, such as ginger, were quite baffling on VertPlus but clear on > > PerVert. > > Second, on the Prose card, certain phrases were pronounced so that parts > > of > > the syllables were compressed or altered depending on the heuristics. > > This > > led to some bizarre situations in which the synth would read a perfectly > > reasonable phrase as if it had profanity embedded in it. This made me > > think > > that the "pervert" title applied more to VertPlus than Vert. *smile* > > (Note, there was no profanity actually inserted, but syllables were > > compressed so that it could be interpreted that way by someone not used to > > the synth.) For that reason I always used headphones! (One phrase I > > remember -- an email with the phrase "fudge in cafeteria". I'll let you > > figure out the result.) > > > > As for programming, I used this screen reader only to read emails and text > > documents and not so much for programming. This because it was not > > designed > > for programming and even for text, the command set in those early screen > > readers was quite awkward. I only bought them because I had a > > catastrophic > > problem with my vision, and so lost the ability to read print for some > > months. But when my vision returned, I went back to screen magnification. > > Now I again have no print vision yet again but wow, have screen readers > > ever > > improved! > > Good luck on your dissertation. > > Cheers and happy hacking! > > --le > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Stefik" <stefika@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 7:54 PM > > Subject: Some stories > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > I have recently completed the first draft of my dissertation, which is > > on blind computer programmers and using audio to program. In it, I've > > created a special C programming environment, ran a ton of experiments, > > and written more than any human would probably want to read. > > > > At the very end of my dissertation, I thought it might be nice to > > include a section, a few paragraphs, on some "classically bad audio > > interfaces." Does anyone have any stories of interacting with a > > program, using Jaws or any other interfaces that use audio, that are > > so comically bad that they have you scratching your head? > > > > I would love to hear some stories, if folks wouldn't mind sharing. > > (The funnier the better) > > > > Just curious, > > > > Andreas > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1267 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 > > 8:12 PM > > > > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > -- Jackie McBride Please join my fight against breast cancer <http://teamacs.acsevents.org/site/TR?px=1790196&pg=personal&fr_id=3489> & Check out my homepage at: www.abletec.serverheaven.net __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind