Ah, perfect. Ubuntu is the one I want to try actually, I'm just trying to get around buying a new computer just to play with. I'm still a little unsure how things work but I think I can answer a lot of my own questions by just playing with it. And free is definitely good! Mind sending me a link with your scripts? I'll get the server and do some reading in the meantime.
Christy Freebie Force, a great resource for finding free stuff and even making cash. http://faylen.nocashever.com Or email me for more info.----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 6:28 AM Subject: Re: Possibly OT, VMWare?
Hello, Two e-mails replayed in one. Am I even on the right track as to what VMWare can do, and is it possible to do this without sighted assistance on a computer that already has windows installed? You are in the right track. Download vmware server and if you're using JAWS you might want to download also the scripts I wrote to work with it. The vmware server is a free package. If you research on this list and the old blindprogramming archives, you will find a thorough discussion related to it. If so, is the price worth it, versus buying a new machine as a dedicated linux box? If you buy a new machine to install linux you will get a better performanse. However I would try the virtual machine first. May be its performanse will feet what you want, may be it won't... but you will have the oportunity of doing all tests you want without spending cash and, if you decide you will need more performanse, then you can buy a dedicated box. From the operating system point of view (in this case linux), there're no differences between running it on a virtual machine. The system "isn't aware" it's running on a VM. So a virtual machine is a group of files (with the size you choose to create your virtual HD plus some kbs), which are used through vmware. It shares your ram, your processor and your hardware such as sound card and networking. You can however create a virtual enviroment the way you whish, inside the vmware possibilities (e.e virtual machines have their own ip addresses, their own ram, their own hd and can share gracefully your cd / dvd, keyboard, mouse and etc). You can simulate tons of hd partition types and also you can choose dinamically howmuch of ram the vm will use. As already said, the system in the VM don't even know it's in a running a VM (it won't even know nothing about your physical machine, but recognizing it on the same network if you set it this way). You cann set up your virtual machine with no sighted assistance. Once the vm is created, it acts as a normal machine (it needs to have an operating system installed). Some linux versions, such as Ubuntu, allow an instalation with no sighted help (look for instructions in the Orca screen reader site). Other operatiing systems and / or versions (like windows or Slackware linux if you don't have a braille display) don't allow for an installation with no sighted help .. but it has nothing to do with the fact that you're installing them om a vm. The gold rule is: Everything you can do in a physical machine you can also do in a virtual machine. What, in terms of performance, would it be like if I ran a virtual machine from my external hard disk compared to if I ran it from my internal one? As your external Hard Disk is probably a little slower, you would also loose performanse in the VM machine. It would be like if it you were booting a system from your external HD in your physical machine * if the disk is slower, then you loose performanse. HTH, Marlon 2008/10/9, Christy Schulte <christy@xxxxxxxxxx>:I've seen some discussion on this list regarding VMWare, and it sounded like this would make it possible to run linux and windows on the same machine atthe same time. Seeing as how I very much want to get back into the linuxscene for both personal and potentially future professional reasons I find this a fascinating prospect, so I did a little research. However, everything I'm seeing looks like it's intended for large businesses and data centers,which would be way, way over what I'd need for a single home computer. so my questions are as follows. Am I even on the right track as to whatVMWare can do, and is it possible to do this without sighted assistance on a computer that already has windows installed? If so, is the price worth it, versus buying a new machine as a dedicated linux box? And if all this checks out, can someone give me a suggestion for which product I need to look forspecifically? I have a feeling that there's a hang up somewhere and that I'd just bebetter off buying a new machine when I can actually afford it, but I figureit never hurts to ask. If nothing else, I'll hopefully learn something. VMWare wasn't covered in the networking class I just completed.-- When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for free." Linus Torvalds __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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